If the first game you ever played with a stick was a flight simulator, then down is up.

The best games shuffle your controller inputs at random on startup to promote mental flexibility and problem solving skills.

Played flying games first. Inverted ever since.

Videogame cameras in 1st person it's supposed to work like this:

The REAL inverted would be move stick down and then you see down.

I exclusively play inverted. I find it also gives better control while playing FPS games.

And by inverted you mean inverted from their proper inverted position. So uninverted. Which is the inverse of correct.

Some people visualize their Y tilt "lever" as in front of the fulcrum of their neck, and some people visualize it as behind the fulcrum. Thus some people find an inverted Y axis to be intuitive, while others don't. At least, this is how the reason for the preference has been explained to me.

I still think all you inverted Y axis people are monsters.

It’s how games with flying should control but that’s the only application it should be used in to me. I believe this since that’s how it works in IRL.

It’s largely an age gap I think. The first generation of FPS games on N64, PS1, etc used inverted controls, so if you’re an old man millennial like me, that’s how you learned to play.

Then in later generations (PS2/3 and on) this changed and inverted became an option, rather than the default (or in some games, only!).

Thus younger gamers are used to “standard” and older gamers used to inverted.

Only when controlling flying crafts.

Who plays like that x_x

I started console FPS with Timesplitters 2, which used that control scheme as default. I’m pretty sure Goldeneye had similar control scheme as well.

For me it’s natural to think the analog stick as my neck. I tilt my neck forward to look down. I tilt my neck back to look up.

some old-school players because they learned mouse/controller camera movements on simulators. think what a pilot does when they want to tilt up: they pull, so you pull the mouse toward you, ie "down"

Every time someone tries and pull out the “just imagine flying a plane” explanation all I can think is motherfucker you’re playing a fucking video game

I used to be inverted until controller FPSs started to be a thing. I don't think people realize how long PC FPSs were mostly a keyboard-only thing. By the time WASD+Mouse standardized, quite late into the Quake 1 era I had hundreds of hours on Tie Fighter/X-Wing and a bunch of other first person flight games.

Hell, Descent predates Quake, and I'd argue it figured out full 3D controls way before Quake did.

Now that I'm on board this train of thought, do kids these days think Doom played with full mouseview and just distorted all over the place? Is it well known for people not born at the time that Doom was mechanically closer to a twin stick shooter than an FPS or have all the source ports erased that from history?

often people who plays plane related flight games with a joystick early in their life

I used to play inverted. If it wasn't inverted, I'd flail around helplessly. Then one day, inverted didn't feel right, and I had to switch. It's been that way ever since. Sometime during the PS2 era I think. I played equal numbers of PC and console games up to that point. Dunno why it happened.

I use inverted Y look with pad controls. Because that makes so much more sense. (Normal mouse look is fine)

I like how many new games show accessibility settings on start but it's still rare for them to have both subtitle settings and invert Y right there. And always a celebration when they are.

Games that don't even let you invert Y are hella silly. I'm so glad Xbox lets you force the invert. Gotta figure out if you can do that in Windows/Linux.

My friend insisted it was supposed to be played like that. It was my first real fps, so I put in effort to learn it. Too late to change it now.