The impeachment was a farce and resulted from an obvious fishing expedition that never should have happened. However, based on the massive power difference between an intern and the literal president of the US, consent is nebulous at best, and he is a despicable person for it among other things. No one should be going to bat for Bill Clinton.

I remember when the Speaker of the House, Bob Livingston, called for Clinton to resign over the Lewinski scandal. Then announced that he too had an extramarital affair, held himself to the same standards, and issued his own resignation. It was about to come out anyway. The investigative journalists at Hustler magazine thought it would be interesting for the public to know how many of the impeachment managers were unfaithful to their wives, and Livingston's name came up.

Livingston was replaced as speaker by Dennis Hastert who, so far as I know, never slept with a woman other than his wife. He did however eventually go to prison for raping little boys who were not his wife.

Clinton might have done things that were a lot worse. They should release the Epstein files so we can all check.

Being impeached for lying about a blowjob is even funnier compared to today's environment, tbh.

Also though, given that Bill is in the epstein documents too, he may not be the best example to use in the near future depending on if we ever see the files.

My bet is they release them with Donnie conspicuously innocent of any wrongdoing

Something about referring to Lewinsky in that context as a consenting adult rubs me wrong. With the power imbalance between the two it feels like a situation where consent is impossible. It feels like the same kind of power imbalance that attracts rich men to pedophilia, and it certainly doesn't help that Bill is almost definitely going down if the epstein stuff ever gets out

Remember when Republicans said there wasn't enough time to confirm Obama's SCOTUS pick and then they rammed three justices on the bench right before Biden was elected?

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, was 100% guilty and was acquitted by Democrats because they decided to ignore the law and use some newly invented "yes, but does anyone care?" legal theory.

That was long, long ago in a reality far, far away. Now we have a pedo, rapist, sexual predator in the White House and a lit if people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Also remember in 2012 the Republican party could not find an interesting candidate among its own, and finally resorted to Romney, the president of a private equity firm (that sinkholes functional large companies while pocketing loans and assets, thereby creating wasteland in the economy -- it's way more evil if less spicy than blowjobs from young staffers)

The same thing was happening in 2015 when Trump did his sales pitch (which really resonates with low-information voters) and he literally stole the Republican party from under the principal candidates. Remember that through 2015 they screeched about how he was going to bring the GOP to ruin, and turn it into a fascist cult of personality that worshiped Trump as a God-Emporor-Shuggoth-Thing. All of these predictions eventually came to pass, and with a couple of exceptions (that got ousted or died) every last one of them bent the knee for the general election.

Much of the US is under a thrall that is exacerbated by a) A trillion-dollar propaganda machine that dominates viewership (and has ruined masculinity as an identity -- at least to me) and b) That the lower rungs of the working class can no longer survive under neoliberalism (e.g. late stage capitalism) and so the Democratic party as it is has nothing really to offer them. They're dying anyway, so why not vote for the face-eating leopards?

According to Knitting Cult Lady, the exceptions they extend to Godhead Trump will not be extended to his replacement. If J. D. Vance becomes president, no-one will like him, and he may just get knifed by his own staffers in the situation room.

Trump Cult collapses from within is not on my bingo card, but I've seen it on other cards.

Defending Bill Clinton in 2025 is a strange move.

Guy has a well known track record of sex abuse in the work place.

Plus he's the biggest likely Epstein client outside trump.

Blowjob from a consenting adult is a very fucking weird way to phrase that. Serial sexual predator and rapist Bill Clinton who was the most powerful man on the planet at the time, the president of the United States, coerced an intern into sexual favors. If you think that's in any way acceptable you're a twisted fuck.

I just went to Fox News, just to see what garbage is being inhaled whole by my countrymen.

Not a word about Johnson shutting the house down early to try to dodge the Epstein stuff.

Some clickbait shit about Biden and Ambien. (a powerful sleep med for those that don't know)

Not a word about Epstein.

Not a word about inflation. There's an article that extolles the BBB. Bunch of white dudes working on a pick-up in the thumbnail.

consenting adult

According to the rules, you cannot consent if they have authority over you. The head of state of your country always has authority over you. (Hmm, I guess this means that the head of state and their spouse cannot legitimately %$*@)