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The story began in early 2017, when Abigail Piland was born without any obvious problems. But when the midwife who helped deliver her checked back the next day, Abigail didn’t look healthy. The midwife told mother Rachel Piland to take the child to a hospital because the baby “could suffer brain damage or die if not properly cared for.”

Rachel refused, insisting “God makes no mistakes.”

Days later, Abigail was dead. (Rachel and her husband Joshua then prayed for Abigail’s resurrection. Surprise: That didn’t work, either.)

A medical examiner later attributed the death to “unconjugated hyperbilirubinemia and kernicterus,” both jaundice-related problems that were treatable. Abigail never had the chance to see a doctor when blood was coming out of her mouth, or when she wasn’t eating, or when her skin became further discolored. All because her parents put more trust in God than someone who could actually help.

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[-] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago

These stupid fucks were mentioned on the Friendly Athiest blog and podcast earlier this year. Look it up. It's a good read / listen.

In a statement read in court, Rachel’s brother, Joel Kerr, said the Pilands “chose their beliefs over their children.” He asked for sentences “sufficiently long that (the couple) can no longer bring life into the world just to snuff it out.”

Monsters. Religion kills. Why do you think abortion is illegal for women who have been raped? Religion.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

And they claim "God makes no mistakes."

Well, they are the mistakes.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Interestingly the brother isn't fanatical which would seem to suggest that the husband was the one that got Rachel involved in it.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

A sentence of menopause in prison is an amazing idea.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe they’ll find god in prison.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

There is a family guy episode about something similar. Stewie becomes friends with another kid from a very religious family. The kid has cancer and the parents refuse to get treatment and prefer to pray the cancer away. Crazy that these people actually exist. Though I can’t say that I am surprised…

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

We really need them out of our world.

[-] [email protected] 103 points 2 days ago

"God makes no mistakes, except doctors and modern medicine."

A just God wouldn't give an innocent child to people like that.

[-] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago

God appears to have made innumerable mistakes since the dawn of time by my reckoning.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I'm reading a comment from one of them right now. Hahaha, got em!

Oh no, in reading my own comment and now I'm God's mistake toooooooooooooo^oooooooooooo!!!!!^

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

What's that old quote about the body being an example of a shitty civil engineer? Something along the lines of: "Only a new civvy puts the playground next to the sewer outflow."

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

That site is so littered with obnoxious ads that I have trouble taking it seriously.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Damn those atheist baby killers at planned parenthood! Taking good jobs from pious christians!

[-] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago

How liberating it must be to just dump everything single thing on "god's will", and have to worry about nothing, ever.

It's fucking depressing... This isn't even about religion, it's about untreated, likely even undiagnosed, mental illness.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

My mental illness works in mysterious ways

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

No kidding. They’ll do something shitty then apologize to their imaginary friend in their head and move along while the rest of the world burns.

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago

This is why religion is dangerous.

[-] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago

Just one of many reasons.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

A lot of people find Jesus in prison. I don't know what Jesus is in there for, but as lot of people say he is.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Jesus was sentenced to life without parole for disorderly conduct while brown.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Religion is dangerous on many levels because it is make-believe taken as reality.

This is just one rather simple example of how fucking stupid it is that people still spread and maintain that oldest of lies.

The only good thing about religion is that all the nutjobs believing in it would likely be the ones also susceptible to other ideologies, manipulations and political groupings in oder to be "part of something greater"... and looking at the world I regard the chances of them getting sucked into something that would actually be good for them and World.... as very slim.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The great thing is; you can be a christian and a fascist! At the same time!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yea, true, the evidence is abundantly there

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Is it a good time to discuss parenting licence?

[-] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago

Sounds like a way to prevent "undesirable" people from having children. Just so, so wide open to abuse.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Yea I don't really believe in its applicability too but doesn't prevent me from wishing it in a more "ideal" form despite being very dangerously parallel to eugenics. It is just hard to think of anything else when you read a news about a baby dying while vomiting blood.

But about the topic of abuse, everything is open to abuse by billionaires including law, but we still have them.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Honestly the eugenics issues aside the idea of the state regulating one of the most basic facets of humanity disgusts me.

What does that look like, forced birth control, forced abstinence, forced abortions? Sounds like a dystopian hell

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

No. There's no ethical way to implement something like that. Even if there was, it's ripe for abuse by the wrong administration.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

You want to know the absolute saddest part of the whole thing? I saw this headline and my first thought was "Oh no, another one of these."

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Man, this kinda shit always just makes me so sad :(

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The system will go easy on them, being white, Christian, and Conservative. They'll do a few months. Then they'll have another kid, because bible.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

The sentencing is in the article. 20-45 years, largely because they showed no remorse and claimed they would do it again

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The article literally says that they have been convicted for decades.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I want to say "unforced error", but that really undersells how fucked up this is.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Don't talk about it too much if you don't want it becoming such a widespread story that it gets Trump to pardon them.

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