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This is a reminder that military service does provide for naturalized citizenship, but it is not automatic. This is not well explained, if at, all by leadership.
At this point, if you’re trying to become a US citizen, you’re a fucking moron. That’s like swimming up to a sinking ship on fire. Few places have a darker future than the US. God I fucking hate this country.
Honestly I'm not sure "service guarantees citizenship" is a good path to go down.
Service guarantees getting fucked
But equally for citizens and non-citizens.
I would like to learn more.
I'm doing my part
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service guarantees citizenship
That was the one thing that I appreciated about being assigned as the "medical and unusual yeoman." I may have been a recruit like the rest of them, but my RDCs gave me everyone's paperwork, and told me to make sure that all appointments were made and kept. I guaranteed that all 15 of the enlisted immigrants got that paperwork signed in triplicate, and forwarded to their OOB. I was then a thorn in those OOBs sides emailing them every six months until I got confirmation of US citizenship for all 15 of my shipmates.
Every other thing about that particular duty was an absolute PITA
My squadron had a lot of immigrants in it for how small it was, and they were all better sailors than most. I'm glad that some immigrants had someone like you fighting for them, it's not an easy path to take
Damn straight. Every immigrant I served with was a better sailor than most of the homegrown, and most of them were just plain better Americans than the majority of people born here. They all were doing everything they could to make their lives and others lives better.
Thank you for your service in this particular way.
One of my best neighbors is a former Navy nurse from a dirt as poor part of Jamaica 🇯🇲. He immigrated this way. Amazing guy and has a great family. My daughter and his daughter are best friends.
I learned this by asking questions after Starship Troopers
The “Thank-you for your service” types currently rallying behind this man I'm guessing?
No. The racism beats out their fervent patriotism.
"Fake news"
They're willing to deport a fucking veteran who took two bullets for his country, they'll deport anyone, including YOU.
Pure unadulterated evil.
Americans have this weird fetish for veterans. Not so much that they would actually treat them decently, though. What people tend to forget is that these people work to maintain the exact same system that screws them over once they are no longer useful.
Veterans were also victims of the orphan crushing machine, usually recruited from impoverished areas with the promise of a stable job, health care, and education. They were once broke high school kids from podunk towns with zero opportunities for upward mobility. I think the left in America is missing a huge opportunity to take advantage of the fetishization of veterans. A few charismatic veterans who espouse a leftist platform can lend a lot of pathos for the cause from the view of the average 'red-blooded American.'
It’s mostly performative.
They love saying it, but they sure hate voting to support them.
Fuck every Republican piece of shit who enabled this to happen. Fuck all who refused to vote in the most consequential presidential election so far. Fuck everyone who said Harris wasn't worth voting for. We're kicking people out who took a bullet for this country with such callousness and the average American citizen just simply shrugs their their shoulders and carry on. What is wrong with us?
What is wrong with us?
Apathy, hopelessness, ignorance, and, in the case of GOP voters, malice.
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“People were saying, ‘You took two bullets for this country. Like you’re more American than most of the Americans living in America,’” he said.
Seems like you should get honorary citizenship at that point. He’s put in the work.
His mistake was working hard and trusting the military would look out for him. He should've found a rich person to marry
per trump he's a "sucker" and a "loser".
Ramos says 38% of the U.S. military are noncitizens, and believes thousands are being deported for non-violent crimes.
Holy shit that's wild. I had no idea the numbers were that high. I always knew the military targeted poor people, but didn't realize how nearly half of them weren't citizens.
Not sure where they're getting that number from, honestly. The actual numbers are MUCH smaller, though still non-neglible.
I had no idea the numbers were that high.
They're definitely not. First hand experience tells me that when a soldier enlists during in processing they start the process for naturalization. I saw several recruits that came in with me go through the paperwork with a drill instructor. If this 38% is "real" then it must be "all time". But modern military for sure it is not.
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On the bright side, he hasn't been spirited away to a Salvadorian concentration camp without due process. In Nazi America, that counts for something.
Yet...
The guy embodies everything right with the system. Jumped through all the hoops. “Rehabilitated” himself despite prison. Followed the rules. Became, for a second time, a productive member of society.
And they sent him away after decades here to a country he doesn’t even know.
I can’t even think about the mental gymnastics engaged in by the pro-military repugnicans who also say “if immigrants came here legally they would be fine…” They probably don’t even bother. Just shrug anf move on.
If they're coming after non citizens for drug use how long until they come after citizens for the same? How long until they're rounding up every medical marijuana patient?
All those for profit prisons will start to look empty and lose money.
Some time
What the actual fuck.
i hope he still gets his veterans benefits
He is gonna have some difficulty getting to the VA for medical services.
he's also supposed to get a stipend every month...
Yeah, and he will still receive his pay wherever he lives.
hte medical benefits are a huge part of the compensation though, especially at his age.
And until this regime, the VA was getting better...
In France, if a foreigner serving in the French Foreign Legion was injured in combat, he is automatically declared Français par le sang versé. Meaning French by spilled blood. When he is given medical treatment the first form he is to fill out as soon as he is able is an application of French citizenship which will be automatically granted.
I honestly cannot think of a bigger show of loyalty than that. What kind of impression do they think they are making?
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