I'd like to use a Linux phone, but it has to run Android apps though. They Gotta find a way, else it's never gonna happen.

It's never going to be the year of the Linux phone until there's one that actually has specs to do the things the majority of people want

Thus far, all the Linux phones I've seen had laughable specs. There's the Liberux NEXX, but it's still at the concept stage

Way back when, I had a Palm Pixie, which ran WebOS. While it wasn’t FOSS, if you turned on developer mode, you would have full terminal access to the Linux system it was running.

I think HP eventually made it open source and now LG uses it for their TVs. But that phone’s OS was one of the best ones I had seen at the time.

I'm very open to being an early adopter of mobile Linux phones. I've been unable to because of a couple of factors. I last seriously checked about half a year ago so take this with a pinch of salt.

• Limited support for specific models. This means that the phone will work as a computer but won't have the correct drivers for gyro, sim and whatnot.
• Lack of extensive driver support. Phones turn off components to save power, this was not supported the last time I checked and halves the battery life compared to stock android.
• Waydroid support incomplete. Many apps will work but some apps will bug out. Waydroid also has performance issues so it's not as good as WINE for example.
• Not big enough community. A lot of models are maintained by a single dev that checks in every blue moon.

To get a Linux phone to be competitive on performance we'll need to get driver APIs and component lists open sourced so it'll be easier to gather the appropriate info and make drivers.

There has been tons of progress though, Gnome and KDE have really strong touch support now and the apps scale decently.

It's coming but now fairphone is the only phone that openly supports Linux mobile distros and is open sourced.

When I first saw this... This is like a very very bad free Android icon pack. Makes the phone straight unusable. Can you actually switch to the normal "theme"? My wife unfortunately has an iPhone and I, as an IT guy in the family, usually get blamed for OS updates on her phone, whenever something becomes different. This won't go down easily :)

iOS developer here and I would switch in a heartbeat but unfortunately it’s not about the OS, it’s about the software that runs on the OS.

Most devs wont build for an OS that doesn’t have an audience. And users will put up with a lot of OS junk for their apps.

So it’s gonna be up to someone to make a linux phone and use their wallet to kickstart a software ecosystem. One won’t happen without the other, at least not at the scale of Google or Apple.

I am writing this comment on an ubuntu touch phone, it is very usable surprisingly, been on it for months now

I am so considering starting to experiment with an Linux phone. But it will be a long time until it can do contactless payments, bank apps, safe biometrics and heavy apps. Now that I think about it,it shouldn't be impossible.

Unfortunately American, meaning Linux phones need to have VOLTE for them to you know, be phones. Until then I'm stuck on grapheneOS

Is that actually what it looks like?

Wtf is this

Wasn't it always the year of Linux phones like Android has huge share of market and it is running Linux kernel but with Google spyware. Now it's just Apple Spyware.