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[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

There's so many songs, TV shows, movies, etc, that's all romance or love stories that contain very blatant infidelity.

What tickles me is when very monogamous, very religious people talk that stuff up.... Like it's such a good song/movie/show... Ha. You have fantasies of leaving your spouse and running off with a younger, more attractive person. You slut.

I'm not religious, but I found a partner that gets me. Guess what. I'm not fantasizing about running off with some mythical "better" or "more romantic" person. Yeah, we're living together unmarried, and we're good like that. You rushed into marriage for God knows what reasons and now you live in regret. Good job.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

for God ~~knows what reason~~

Ftfy. Skydaddy gonna be angy they fucked before marriage

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Are you saying you don't like piña coladas?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Piña colada is a "you both awful and deserve each other"

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

I recently heard Docket by Blondshell for the first time and favorited it right away.

Then I listened again more tuned in and noticed it was about infidelity and thought “aw man”, unfavorited and moved on.

Heard it a couple more times and realized it wasn’t glorifying cheating, lines like “my worst nightmare is me”. Back on the list! Real rollercoaster.

[-] [email protected] 80 points 1 day ago

More troubling to me is how many romance movies have our protagonist stalk their love interest, who has already explicitly rejected them... and it works, because their obsession is framed as "love at first sight" and "not giving up on love".

Oh, and the other common trope, non-consensual voyeurism... and it works, because the woman is 'flattered' that the guy finds her attractive.

...How good is the "pop culture detective" YouTube channel?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

…How good is the “pop culture detective” YouTube channel?

It's basically "Anita Sarkeesian's ex keeps doing essentially the same kind of thing she used to do", to the point that the writing is similar enough (at least at the beginning of the channel, haven't watched any of it in a long time) that I wonder if he wasn't the one doing most of the writing for her stuff during the Tropes v Women era.

[-] [email protected] 119 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And also how often the movie is completely oblivious to that. For example it's been a while since I saw "Devil wears Prada" but if I remember right, the ending is:

Our main character has an argument with her boyfriend

Goes to a business trip in Paris

Sleeps with random guy

Returns home and makes up with her boyfriend

And the movie ends like nothing happened, she's happy, that's what's important

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

I mean, that was bad, but I hated the movie more for turning it into feel-good drivel about the boss actually being kind and caring about her employee(s). The book ending, where the character realized her own self worth and started making her own decisions, was so much better than the american bullshit about putting up with a boss' bullshit because they're actually such good people and will throw a few dollars off the balcony for you to catch.

[-] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Her probably:

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

not betraying your partner's trust is important too. cheating is disgusting, selfish behaviour

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

I don't mind infidelity in media when the one being cheated on is "evil" in some ways like they're abusive or not in love. Still icky though. It's just very different when it's something like that versus "I'm cheating because you're bad at sex."

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

I'm not familiar enough with the plot of any Bond media to tell you if it falls in the category I'm okay with. Like if Bond's love interest is also married to the villain and has sex with Bond I would consider that okay. Because the villain is probably abusive.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

love interest

What!? No!
He just fornicates all villain's wives to churn out their information, which he uses, to destroy the villain or sth.

The women are then left for dead. They do survive some times.

Every movie, new villain, new infidel wife.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

It's usually "we have gotten bad at sex" and there's no conversation about it. Maybe it wasn't meant to be. Talk about and figure it out. Then leave. Don't be a fucking dipshit about it.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Bothered me significantly in the will they/won't they dynamic of The Office.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Especially when he ditches Karen in NYC while she's waiting on him to meet with her friends. Even if I was Pam I'd be put off by that

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

The OG premise of The Office was similar to Seinfeld. They were all supposed to be awful people. Jim and Dwight and Michael were just three different flavors of incel. Jim hitting on a soon-to-be-married woman was supposed to be off-putting and gross. The front office guys treating the back office guys like trash was supposed to be elitist and revolting.

But because the writers needed to give you someone to root for, and because Jim was the "hot one" in a show full of normal looking people (aka the writers room from a bunch of sitcoms who thought it would be funny to have a show where they play each other's characters), they had to justify Pam breaking up and getting together with Jim. And then they had to turn the Jim/Pam arc into Friends. And then they had to turn the Dwight/Angela and Michael/Jan arcs into Friends. And by the final season they were just, like, "Fuck it, this show is now the same as Friends."

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

But because the writers needed to give you someone to root for

Moreover, because it went from adapting a British sitcom to making an American sitcom. The famous tweet goes something like: "A waiter spills soup on a businessman before a meeting with his boss. In the UK the show's about the waiter. In the US the show's about the businessman."

Same reason Steve Carell went from playing David Brent to playing Brick Tamland. We don't find a powerful sleazebag as funny as a powerful moron.

Not that there's much difference these days.

[-] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago

This makes me wonder how many women are quite unhappy in their marriage, and are willing to jump at the nearest opportunity.

Kinda depressing to think about, actually.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Boomer tropes exist because divorce was illegal.

You were expected to get married and stay married. You'd have unprotected sex with your high school boyfriend, you're goddamn right you were gonna keep the baby, and you were going to live together until one of you died. Even if it meant separate beds and not asking why he frequented that bar by the docks.

Blame Catholicism. That's usually a fair bet.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

Work with elderly. Coworker said "how many of these women do you think have gone their entire live without an orgasm." It connected a lot of dots. The no orgasm to elderly fox news white women is the school shooter pipeline for wasp women.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

While there are quite a few people who would jump ship from their marriage, that's not why the trope so popular. It's just that a lot of people like "forbidden love" tropes. Although most don't actually dream of doing those things, it's pure fantasy.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah, fictional romance is more interesting when it's forbidden in some way. Otherwise, who wants to read a romance novel about a nice couple who meets at the library when they're both single, and proceeds to have a wholesome relationship? Great for real life, but boring to read about or watch a movie about.

Many of the traditional reasons for forbidding a romance are gone in the contemporary world. Different race, different social class, same gender, rival families? Not convincing.

So you're left with stuff that's plausible but icky, like being in a relationship already, or being teacher/student or boss/employee. Or pornographic stuff like step-family. Those are problematic and people will criticize them.

You could set your story in a historical setting in which the countess and the gardener are truly forbidden from passion, or a fantasy world where the ogopogos and sasquatches are sexy rivals.

Or just have a lukewarm type of forbidden-ness, like "his family's greeting-card store is in competition with my family's greeting-card store" or "we're coworkers."

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

You could set your story in a historical setting in which the countess and the gardener are truly forbidden from passion, or a fantasy world where the ogopogos and sasquatches are sexy rivals.

The amount of pirates on the covers of romance novels is the direct result of this.

Or just have a lukewarm type of forbidden-ness, like “his family’s greeting-card store is in competition with my family’s greeting-card store” or “we’re coworkers.”

And the hallmark channel answer. I had a coworker who would watch those every single day. I vomit at the visuals (how do they get them so consistent and apparent? You can tell just from the opening shots and title!) of a hallmark to this day.

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

Great romance requires a choice. It's difficult to find a choice that matters, ideally it is something they already have, but are giving up. That's why all the hallmark movies work because a big city girl is giving up her career to grow cucumbers or something. Making a choice to take a job somewhere else doesn't work because it's a future thing - giving up an opportunity is not the same as giving up a realized life situation. Infidelity really works because it's a former dream, and it means giving up stability, status, comfort for the unknown.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago

It works from a story perspective but it sends a very terrible message.

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