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[-] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago

News constantly both sidesing it

[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

How fucked up is the world that people see neo-Nazis running around, and folks go out and beat up the neo-nazis, and they're terrified of the "brawl" instead of the actual fucking nazis?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

The last generation that actually remembers WW2 is dying of old age.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Right? This is the biggest bullshit.

The left does a fundraiser, nazis show up with knives and the people in attendance at that fundraiser defend themselves by sending them running.

There's no both sides here. There's good people doing a fundraiser doing self defence against nazis. The left didn't show up for a fight but they fucking finished one.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

Imagine being a group of nazis so pathetic, you outnumhber and outmatch your prey and LOSE.

This is beyond pulling a Goliath, this is like watching God somehow lose a fight to a rat.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

they're both ideologically motivated extremists in my book centrist

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Exactly. We need civility. Let’s debate the Nazis, and show them they should be a bit more moderate.

then let’s quietly abduct and minecraft all the commies, they aren’t people and threaten my status-quo

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah the nazoids try and minecraft socialists in australia now and again and the news doesn't say jack shit lol

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I mean Australian media is entirely owned by a Nazi, no?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Only most of it, you have to add a couple of extra Nazis to cover all of it

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Don't suppose we can all hide our power levels and say we're just "libertarians fighting against all forms of socialism, including national socialism."

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I think the time to hide power levels is over. When the Nazis go mask-off, going mask-off as well is just a way to bring even more cryptonazis up to the surface…

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

https://t.me/antifascistalerts/70

check this local telegram channel in case you dont know

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

Noooo not the shop door anything but the shop door 😭

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Exactly how you should deal with these people. Kick the shit out of them and put a wee bit of terror in them.

Really like this format, should be repeated for similar events that happen in future elsewhere.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

get fuckin owned nerds

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Angelic Upstarts soundtrack intesifies

... Reminds me of my youth.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Wtf SHARPS are still a thing? This is like finding out some Nazis got eaten by a dimetrodon.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

punks not dead babey

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago
[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

"Skin heads against racial prejudice" in this context I'm fairly sure

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

But aren't skinheads just nazis? Sorry if this is an obtuse question but I've always seen the term used interchangeably.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago

skinhead is punk subculture, but because of the word "skin" and the tendency of nazis to shave their heads and adopt punk culture aesthetics, the two began to be used interchangeably. So for a long time now there have been anti-fascist punks who aesthetically look like skinheads but will beat up an actual nazi if they see one. At least that's how I've had this explained to me. I've never been particularly immersed in that subculture.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's not really correct. The first iteration of skinheads in Britain, late 60s, were a subculture with mod (white rockers) and rude boy (Jamaican immigrants) influences. Colloquially, reggae in the late 60s was referred to as skinhead reggae because skinheads were the biggest consumers of Jamaican music outside of the Caribbean. From an ideological standpoint, they were all over the place (benevolent toward blacks, with some 2nd gen Jamaicans in their ranks, but often hostile toward Pakistani immigration) but certainly not nazi or white power affiliated.

The National Front in the 70s started co-opting skinheads as they saw the disaffected youth as a means to rise in power. This is the birth of the nazi skinhead movement as we know it (aped later in America by shitheads like Tom Metzger in Fallbrook, CA), which coincided with racist bands gaining popularity like Skrewdriver or Combat 84.

However, most oi and street punk was antithetical to the National Front world view. In response, many prominent skinheads who were either apolitical to far Left (including Roddy Moreno of The Oppressed) started SHARP in response to the rise of skins identifying with National Front.

So that's the basic history.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

this

the reason punk is bifurcated into antifascists and fascists is because it was a music subculture first, and only became a site of political contest later.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Skinhead is used to mean essentially "Nazi gangster with a shaved head" in popular parlance, but it has many different meanings that are older than that one.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

This is the leftist White Roses and not the alt right White Roses, right? Some CHUDs tried stealing the name a while back.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

yeah, pretty sure the alt-right one is just a telegram channel, they don't have an IRL organizational capacity

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