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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

At the very least if your child gets someone sick with a preventable desease they should be held liable.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I lived in a developing country for a time - childhood vaccines would have saved so many kids lives….yes they should be mandatory. In the sense that you cannot access services if unvaccinated eg. Daycare, schools, healthcare services.

[-] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago

You can't make vaccinations "mandatory", but you can make them the basic benchmark for participation in society.

In Ontario and New Brunswick, proof of vaccination is already required for children to attend school. But parents can get an exemption in both provinces for medical, religious or philosophical reasons, as long as they fill out a form.

This right here is the problem. Kids should need vaccinations to go to school or to receive government benefits of any kind, unless there is a firm medical reason that precludes them. Religious or philosophical excuses are not sufficient. If you don't want to get vaccinated then you don't want to participate in modern society.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

First Nations might not be happy with what you're suggesting

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lots of indigenous aren't happy to be forced to be vaccinated by their colonial rulers.

They would claim their spirtial beliefs and culture should exempt them. Else its further oppression

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sure, and that's why they have lower rates of vaccination and had higher rates of COVID than non-indigenous regions. It's also why indigenous communities were prioritized in rolling out COVID vaccines, because we knew it would be bad and wanted to make less of a barrier to entry. Indigenous values are important, but not at the expense of the health and safety of the public.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

A delicate issue, but again - it's a basic prerequisite for participation in contemporary society.

It would be unethical to allow an exemption on those grounds.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

it's a basic prerequisite for participation in contemporary society.

A fancy way of saying "mandatory"

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe, I guess it's subjective or semantics.

The article talks about mandatory as in forcible injection. You hold the kid down and put a needle in their arm. Obviously, this is not the way.

I'm suggesting that if you want to receive government benefits or want your child to participate in school then yes vaccination is "mandatory". Sure it's not much of a choice, but it captures the reality of the situation.

As a society, we can all work together for everyone's benefit. You can choose not to work together with everyone if you wish but it's not much of a choice.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Installing a behavior altering brain chip is not analogous to getting a vaccine.

Sorry I'm not going to engage with this type of argument.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was a wrong turn anyway, so I edited it. Sorry. I hoped to catch it before you replied.

But my point was the arrogance and disrespect. I find it shocking. The actual form of the insult was secondary.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Seriously.

The kids who are actually vulnerable need their peers vaccinations rates as high as possible. That’s literally the point of herd immunity. God I just wish for one fucking second people weren’t so god damned selfish. There are literally children fucking dying because of this shit, right now. It’s fucking infuriating.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Instead of demanding that the peers get vaccinated they could just stay away from the peers.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

When I was a kid in the 60s and 70s you had to have all of your vaxxes before registering for school (kindergarten to Gr 12). There were no exceptions allowed except for allergies to egg, but there were few kids back then that were allergic to eggs.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

I hope the other 30% are just kids that don’t like needles

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Nah man, "parents rights" advocates. Because it is your right to give suffering to life you create.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I'm terrified of needles and even I am extremely pro vaccines

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Let's ban vape flavors to protect kids, but you fucking don't give them life-saving medicine!

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

The sad thing is, I'm willing to bet that those 30% are basing their choices on either a lack of factual information, or a misperception about vaccines based on disinformation (i.e. that they cause autism). And a few probably for religious reasons, which is sad because religion should never be used to hurt kids.

If there was a genuine sit down with those 30% to ask what their concerns are, I'm willing to bet that the majority of them would change their mind.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Factual information comes from the authority of the hour. The authority of the hour is determined by vast mindless forces.

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