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[-] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago

You can't make vaccinations "mandatory", but you can make them the basic benchmark for participation in society.

In Ontario and New Brunswick, proof of vaccination is already required for children to attend school. But parents can get an exemption in both provinces for medical, religious or philosophical reasons, as long as they fill out a form.

This right here is the problem. Kids should need vaccinations to go to school or to receive government benefits of any kind, unless there is a firm medical reason that precludes them. Religious or philosophical excuses are not sufficient. If you don't want to get vaccinated then you don't want to participate in modern society.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Seriously.

The kids who are actually vulnerable need their peers vaccinations rates as high as possible. That’s literally the point of herd immunity. God I just wish for one fucking second people weren’t so god damned selfish. There are literally children fucking dying because of this shit, right now. It’s fucking infuriating.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Instead of demanding that the peers get vaccinated they could just stay away from the peers.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

First Nations might not be happy with what you're suggesting

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lots of indigenous aren't happy to be forced to be vaccinated by their colonial rulers.

They would claim their spirtial beliefs and culture should exempt them. Else its further oppression

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Sure, and that's why they have lower rates of vaccination and had higher rates of COVID than non-indigenous regions. It's also why indigenous communities were prioritized in rolling out COVID vaccines, because we knew it would be bad and wanted to make less of a barrier to entry. Indigenous values are important, but not at the expense of the health and safety of the public.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

A delicate issue, but again - it's a basic prerequisite for participation in contemporary society.

It would be unethical to allow an exemption on those grounds.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

it's a basic prerequisite for participation in contemporary society.

A fancy way of saying "mandatory"

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Maybe, I guess it's subjective or semantics.

The article talks about mandatory as in forcible injection. You hold the kid down and put a needle in their arm. Obviously, this is not the way.

I'm suggesting that if you want to receive government benefits or want your child to participate in school then yes vaccination is "mandatory". Sure it's not much of a choice, but it captures the reality of the situation.

As a society, we can all work together for everyone's benefit. You can choose not to work together with everyone if you wish but it's not much of a choice.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Installing a behavior altering brain chip is not analogous to getting a vaccine.

Sorry I'm not going to engage with this type of argument.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It was a wrong turn anyway, so I edited it. Sorry. I hoped to catch it before you replied.

But my point was the arrogance and disrespect. I find it shocking. The actual form of the insult was secondary.

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