What about the seizure and occupation of vacant private property?
Let's cover polygamy and tax fraud. If you marry multiple people during the purge ... does that mean the marriages are all legal?
If you claim a $1,000,000 tax refund and mail it while the purge is going ... is that legal?
Most people would have way more on their mind than just murder.
Within 4 hours of announcing that a "purge night" was a thing, they would have to revise it to just call it "murder night" and even then, it will get further modified to "Murder of sanctioned people and groups night" and even THEN they will have to further amend it until it finally says "The police get to murder you night" and then they will want to remove the nightly restriction and then BAM you have what we have now.
I would say that once the purge ends you cannot be legally married to multiple people. Meanwhile if you murder someone they're just dead. If you kidnap someone you'd have to let them go when it ends.
Stealing is an interesting gray area. Is possessing a stolen object the crime, or is the stealing the crime? Or possibly both? If possessing a stolen object is illegal then you'd have to return them when it ends.
It's not "stolen" because stealing is a crime but you took it on ~~free balloon~~ Purge Day. It's just something you have now.
What if you shot someone during the purge, but they did not actually die until the next day.
I'm thinking this whole "no laws" concept would actually need hundreds of thousands of laws. Courts would be tied up for years after each purge just trying to answer the legal questions regarding having no law.
I think of it more as the law looking away from any incidents on the day, and ignoring any lasting consequences after. Makes it neater.
Skyrim would have me believe that possession of a stolen item is also a crime.
Everything except for harming capital, ok? Now go kill each other.
Huge companies would import stuff by the planeloads to avoid tariffs/duties
Employees would be too busy hunting down CEOs to import stuff for the company.
I imagine there would be a group of people in each company with special contracts for hazard pay to work on purge day.
Just regular pay, but with the promise of a Friday pizza party.
CEOs would be in Europe.
Apple was literally buying up entire passenger flights and filing them with iPhones instead of people to skirt in under the deadline. Capitalism is a hell of a drug.
Realistically, doesn't randomly killing people harm capital, in so much as it would mean they must have more staff to cover the work of an unknown number of murdered employees afterwards, lose money spent training anyone that gets killed, and have a slightly smaller workforce available that also is more proficient at violence?
In theory yes, less employees means the value of labor goes up because of demand. This is what happened after the Black Death in Europe.
In the wake of the drastic population decline brought on by the plague, wages shot up, and labourers could move to new localities in response to wage offers. Local and royal authorities in Western Europe instituted wage controls. The government controls sought to freeze wages at the old levels before the Black Death. Within England, for example, the Ordinance of Labourers, enacted in 1349, and the Statute of Labourers, enacted in 1351, restricted both wage increases and the relocation of workers.[30] If workers attempted to leave their current post, employers were given the right to have them imprisoned. The statute was poorly enforced in most areas, and farm wages in England on average doubled between 1350 and 1450,[31] but they were then static until the late 19th century.[32]
Cohn, comparing numerous countries, argues that the laws were not designed primarily to freeze wages. Instead, he says that the energetic local and royal measures to control labour and artisans' prices were responses to elite fears of the greed and the possible new powers of the lesser classes that had gained new freedom. Cohn continues that the laws reflected the anxiety that followed the Black Death's new horrors of mass mortality and destruction and from elite anxiety about manifestations, such as the flagellant movement and the persecution of Jews, Catalans (in Sicily) and beggars.
Of course nothing will stop the ruling class from fuckery.
Let's go, Luigi!
Everything is legal, including:
We're still talking about the purge, right?
Dropping nukes...
If everything is legal, and a police officer imprisions you that's ok right?! Nothing is ilegal. so we back.to running from the police
The actual purpose of the Purge if to make tax fraud legal for 24 hours so the rich can somehow pay even less taxes.
They don't need a purge night to commit tax fraud, the do it every day, for vast, vast sums of wealth.
If they had a purge night in real life, they would quickly amend it to just "murder" night. Lest the poors get an idea that they too could exploit the system.
Then they would amend it again because they don't want to get murdered. So it will be "Murdering approved people and groups night" but that also has a chance of backfiring if someone wealthy or the people protecting them could be at risk, so they will just change it to "The police get to murder you night" and then they will shrug and remove the nightly restriction, and then there you go... our current system.
They don't have to pay taxes ever again if the angry mob of poor people get to them.
Unnecessary. They're already doing tax fraud.
Stealing some real food, destroying anti-homeless architecture, sleeping in your own car, getting an abortion, same-sex marriage.
Anyway, I doubt most people would get violent. Most people aren't just held back by laws, but morality. People would probably just be trying all kinds of drugs mostly, racing, trespassing and breaking into places. What better time for exploring some abandoned buildings, or staff-only areas.
You'd probably find me in a train depot, probably taking pictures and trying to figure out how to get one of the engines running. If that area wasn't guarded of course.
Alternatively, I'd probably steal a bus. Or a semi truck. Just temporarily. I don't have a drivers license, but I want to try driving that.
Hmm, I might take a bicycle to the airport. I doubt people would risk flying, and it would probably be the emptiest area for cycling.
I always assumed the Purges were set up by a far right government to legally kill anyone who tried to organise against them.
Send goon squads (not the new ones) to smash up and kill coops, local farms, unions, uncooperative lawyers, journalists, etc.
You can do that without the purge.
Yes, folks can and do.
But Hollywood likes to good wash the current status quo, so let's ignore PayPal's union busting and censorship policies, bombing civilians, systemic racism, and take it up to 11 in a fictional future.
Or maybe I'm just jaded by the biggest fans of "purgey" settings being right wing folks.
No Knock Warrant. Wrong Name Warrent.
Anyway, I doubt most people would get violent. Most people aren’t just held back by laws, but morality
I'll be honest here, mate, I think we've seen that a very large portion of the population would be more than happy to get violent. It's mostly the ones who scream about laws needing to enforce morality on 'the heathens.'
Time to erase all debt 👀
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I’m gonna infringe on medical patents and pirate as much corpo medicine as I can in 12 hours
Like feeding the homeless in certain cities?
We want to watch poor people kill each other, not better their situation
You won't be charged with entering illegally, but staying illegally.
You won't be charged with the import, but for posession. Well I guess for exports, if you procure it and export it quickly and then delete/destroy it from your posessions, its fine. But import? Nah. Whoever end with its possession is fucked.
And for export, they could just charge for the creation of it without approval, not the export itself.
Piracy? Yea they'll just prosecute for posession.
Tax fraud? They'll just shut down IRS for duration of the purge so you can't even file it.
Possession of pirated material isn't illegal. It's the distribution that gets you. That's why torrenting needs a VPN but streaming is perfectly legal (for the viewer)
Pirates Software
Large Company To Police:
They pirated it after the purge ended. If you don't destroy their property, I'll make sure you get fired and your life forfeit!
During the purge union busting would be worse but man it goes both ways
I always thought those movies were too simplistic.
Some people would think things through.
Luckily, I think the way that I conduct my life leaves me with very low odds for being on anyone's kill list. I only have to worry about the murderous random killing.
During the purge I’d hide in my bunker while downloading as much copyrighted material as possible onto a harddrive.
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