I didn’t pay anywhere near $80 for Borderlands 1-3+ all the DLC…. So um. No. I’m in no hurry.
This isn’t all the games but it goes on for like another 2 screens worth for all the DLC…
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I didn’t pay anywhere near $80 for Borderlands 1-3+ all the DLC…. So um. No. I’m in no hurry.
This isn’t all the games but it goes on for like another 2 screens worth for all the DLC…
Pitchford gives off some strong “do you guys not have phones” energy. He’s so out of touch it’s astounding.
Fuck you, I'm not paying $80 for a game so an executive can get a new Porsche.
Find a way?
Piracy is a way. Thanks for the tip.
This is such a scummy statement I want BL4 less now. Let him eat cake.
I will illegally download an illegal version of the game, thanks bye
Just started expedition 33. Omg. So so good!
Point is... I'll play something else.
Real fan?
Bitch please. We've put up with your crap for so long and we still play it....
Get out of here with that horse shit. Get fucked. Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on. At best, I'll wait for a sale, at worst, I'm never playing your goddamned franchise again because you've run it into the ground with enshittification.
I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.
Seriously, why do they let him talk? The man is a walking PR disaster.
Then again, we should all be asking how the hell he's not in jail for possession of child porn, so I guess this is a pretty minor thing in comparison.
ugh. i wont even pirate it. gross
Remember how Randy Pitchford funneled money that was supposed to go to Aliens: Colonial Marines into Borderlands 2 (and Duke Nukem Forever lol)
How the fuck do you leave a USB stick full of child abuse material at a fucking Medieval Times and get away with it?
Aw, he’s telling people to pirate it. What a thoughtful guy.
You wouldn't download a shit to give.
Listen, I unironically love being woke. Accessibility for impairments? Human rights? Equity? Regulations standing in the way of greed? Overrepresentation of minority demographics? Fuck yes to all of that shit. Hell's Yeah.
But the direction of these games have been poor for a lot of reasons. It doesn't feel woke, really, it feels like they want us to believe they aren't Handsome Jack's corporate studio goons like they are.
Guess I'm not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He's such a cunt.
While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.” Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself. When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.
I can barely justify 50€ for a massive game like Baldur's Gate 3. I'd never pay that much for any other game that is not on this scale. But 80 bucks? The fuck are they thinking?
Dead Island 2 is free on Epic currently, and probably more fun than Borderlands 4; BL 3 wasn't written well, and i assume the same for BL 4. A shame, BL2 is one of my most played FPS
Like waiting 6 months for them to panic over low sales and put on 50% sale?
Maybe, or maybe I'll wait for the ultimate edition with all dlc to hit $40
Oh I'll find a way alright.
And my way is, wait a few years for the deluxe edition to come out on sale.
Or wait the number of years it takes to be on sale for $20.
The trailer for the new borderlands looked like the most soulless, boring cash grab. Anyone put much time into it yet?
Also, let's not forget the new EULA regarding shift accountsAlso, he made his 'fans" wait while bl3 was only available on the epic store. Fuck this dude, I am done with the franchise.
Randy pitchford?
THAT Randy Pitchford? The Randy Pitchford that, because he loves magic tricks, downloaded himself some squirt porn (sfw youtube link to moistcritical) on the same thumb drive as company secrets, and then left it at a Medieval Times? The same Randy that grabbed the Claptrap VA by the junk because he was tired of voicing Claptrap for free and had the audacity to ask to be paid so Pitchford tried to intimidate him? The same Randy Pitchford that somehow "lost" millions dollars of Segas money causing Colonial marines to bomb so that they could fund Borderlands 2 and Duke Nukem Forever He's also not above putting journalists who bad mouth him in his games as petty revenge.
Fuck that guy. Fuck anything he says.
If Randy Pitchford was a real CEO he would find a way to make $60 games
Since I didn’t enjoy the handsome collection I wouldn’t buy it at any price, but even for games I do enjoy I wait until they are on sale preferably with the DLCs included
Im always thrown off as a Canadian when I see these headlines because we’ve been paying $80 for games for decades.
Video games haven’t risen in cost with inflation and they’re much better and bigger now so I’m not super upset, but they are now at the point where I won’t buy a game at release or full price. I think the new price here is $93 cause that’s what the new Indiana jones is going for
What I hate most is that the game actually costs $150 and they split it and give you a stripped version for $80. I think gta 4 was the last game i truly felt made sense, game releases, we buy it, story dlc comes out later we get it, transaction over. No online bullshit that tries to keep you paying money into the game without end. Not a game split into little chunks and sold as tiers at release
Can't wait to play it...in 2035 summer sale. Maybe I'll even get bored in under 2 hours and get the instant refund.
Idk. I think gamers are overly upset about $80 games. While I am sympathetic to not wanting the price to go up, the fact of the matter is that brand new video games cost pretty much the same as they did 30 years ago, while the cost of everything else has basically doubled in that time. I know it's probably not what is going to happen but if $80 video games are what it takes to get us away from shitty microtransactions in full price games, then I'm all for it. I know the crowd on Lemmy will just say they should make less profit and do neither but that's just not how the world works right now and nobody is going to do that.
Food for thought- here are some prices in 1996 and today
New video game: 1996- $67 (Super Mario 64), 2025- $70
McDonald's Big Mac meal: 1996- $2.45, 2025-$9.29
Base package Honda Civic: 1996- $10,360, 2025-$24,250
Average apartment - 1996- $550/mo, 2025- $1,540/mo
Median annual income- 1996- $20,109, 2025- $50,200
Doesn't one of these stand out?
And let's take this outside of the myopic view of only looking at inflation.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/video-game-industry-revenues-by-platform/
Console gaming revenue: 1996 - 7 billion, 2022 - 30 billion
Let's look at specifically Nintendo here since we're talking about Super Mario 64
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2001/011121e.pdf
2001, 664 million in profit, adjusted for inflation in 2022 dollars, 1 billion.
2022, 1.7 billion dollars in profit.
You forget that in 1996 the gaming pool was also magnitudes smaller compared to today and despite all of the whining about increased development costs, which I also think is bullshit but that's a different conversation, profits have increased to keep up.
So my opinion, no there's absolutely no justification for a 80 dollar price point when you look at the over all picture.
Yarrr Matey, they'll find a way.
Hi Randy, fuck off lol
Too much games to play on the market to justify the urgency to buy it at release for 80 bucks. they now compete with free to play, gamepass, Indy games, piracy, and tons of past games with lower cost.
The fomo of newly released games is low when most games are released in shitty state and need 1/2 months of patches/fixes and that's not even taking in consideration that the best experience is when all the dlcs are released and make the game finally complete.
The AAA industry is fucked. In a world where quality games are released each weeks they are often but even the best way to have fun with our limited time, like tepid Ubisoft games...
I've been a big Borderlands fan for 10+ years. I played through the first one multiple times and loved it. My wife and I bonded over BL1 when we first started dating.
Was super excited for BL2, and have played it many times throughout the years.
But the pre-sequel was a let down, and BL3 felt soulless and lacked the same spark as BL2.
Tiny Tina Wonderlands was great, and felt like a return to what made BL2 so fun.
All that to say, I don't have high hopes for BL4, nor will I be paying $80 for it. It just feels like they're coasting off the brand name at this point and trying to exploit longtime BL players like myself.
I agree, but when you wouldn't let Aspyr do a Linux port for BL3, I stopped being a "real fan".
I can make it happen? Okeydokey! 🏴☠️
You'd think he'd be better media trained by now. But no, here goes the foot in the mouth.