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FYI, Poland had a pretty far-right undemocratic government until relatively recently (a few years...). Keyword PiS. For a moment it looked like they might do a full Hungary. I'm glad they got back from that!
The new (current) government promised a lot of improvement, but did very little. And during current presidential campaign (elections this Sunday) they don't even pretend they care much about LGBT rights.
They tried a couple of things that were shot down by the far right president, though.
Good excuse. They could just wait for 'their' president. We will see how much of those laws will be signed when the ne president takes the office. I am afraid that when they get their own president the law changes won't be on the table any more. The presidential campaign did not raise my hopes.
However, the country still has the EUβs second-lowest score β above only Romania β in the annual Rainbow Map published by ILGA-Europe, a Brussels-based NGO
Special bonus for comment readers, the map mentioned in the article:
Itβs a little bit illuminating seeing the stark contrast of deep green vs deep red at the Northern Russian border, whereas in the more central Europe, or the rest of it for that matter, sees a gradual tend towards the red across the eastern bloc.
Thatβs a daring thing to be. Such a progressive, healthy country, with all that border with the deep red orcs. But has to be a little bit lonely, too. Not many deep green countries having such stark contrast to a direct neighbor. Not many will understand the extra pressure or weight it carries.
To illustrate how difficult it can be to be Russia's neighbor, this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization
Same could be said about Greece and the other balkan countries.
As the map shows being restrictive to LGBT rights is not something unique to Russia and the opposite is not unique to Finland.
I am also quite sure that long before Russias full scale invasion of Ukraine the cross border exchange of Finland and Russia was less than Greece and the other balkan countries or Italy and its northern neighbors have.
Well, not much deep green there outside of Greece, which is a country I love precisely for standing out in the region in a brilliant way. But it is true that despite the border lengths not being comparable in length, they have even tougher relations with the deep red neighbor.
Second, there has been a lot of exchange between our nations. Itβs not so long that we gained our independence from them in the first place. I would guess itβs been much more extensive for this very reason. But itβs an apples to oranges kind of comparison, and doesnβt make sense to compare even if it wasnβt.
Finland is among the top 5 greens as far as I can tell with a basic eyedrop on the image. Russia is among the deepest reds. So there is nuance in that vs. the balkans especially, that are mostly in the yellow-orange shades.
But either way, just an observation. Not intended to belittle other countries. It is a stark contrast, which I just found noteworthy enough to bring up.
Surprised it's not Hungary.
The green and red thumbnail made me somehow read Portugal instead of Poland which left me confused for a second
c/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT
Turns out, in this case Italy and UK are the CYKABLYAT.
Europe is lucky it doesnt have USA in there.
The US is about average in a lot of that. Homosexuals are allowed to marry and most Americans including conservatives are for that. There are also quite a few anti discrimination laws on the book. Obviously Trump is not going to improve on that, but still as of right now, it is not that bad.
Why is there under almost very post not about the USA, someone mentioning the USA?
Honestly i guess its because it feels like Europe is not as important as USA for world econony or relations....
Maybe thats wrong. But it certainly feels like Europe is just not that important. And im a European.
What do you mean?
That it'd be the worst state? That the US being inside the EU would be a bad thing?
I meant that with Trump in charge of the USA, it would be at the bottom of the ranking if it was included in the European stats.
Why was it worse? Polish pope, focusing on spreading LGBT hate to Poland. Now, they're more focused on fighting off Russia.
Romania? I guess they're planning on fighting off the growing eastern orthodox Russians, and the Balkan muslims.
It's all a war with them. A perpetual war to influence and force people into their shitty religions.
PiS is no longer able block LGBTQ+ events like Pride Parades and municipalities have withdrawn anti LGBTQ+ laws. They current government also created a number of hate speech laws, which would protect them, but the PiS president refuses to sign them.
So it seems to get better, but far from good.
there are elections next sunday and it's likely that next president will be a lib
~~It should be Russia~~
Since when exactly is Russia in the EU?
Sorry, I thought it said in Europe. My mistake
No problem ;)