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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FYI, Poland had a pretty far-right undemocratic government until relatively recently (a few years...). Keyword PiS. For a moment it looked like they might do a full Hungary. I'm glad they got back from that!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The new (current) government promised a lot of improvement, but did very little. And during current presidential campaign (elections this Sunday) they don't even pretend they care much about LGBT rights.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They tried a couple of things that were shot down by the far right president, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Good excuse. They could just wait for 'their' president. We will see how much of those laws will be signed when the ne president takes the office. I am afraid that when they get their own president the law changes won't be on the table any more. The presidential campaign did not raise my hopes.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

However, the country still has the EU’s second-lowest score – above only Romania – in the annual Rainbow Map published by ILGA-Europe, a Brussels-based NGO

Special bonus for comment readers, the map mentioned in the article:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

It’s a little bit illuminating seeing the stark contrast of deep green vs deep red at the Northern Russian border, whereas in the more central Europe, or the rest of it for that matter, sees a gradual tend towards the red across the eastern bloc.

That’s a daring thing to be. Such a progressive, healthy country, with all that border with the deep red orcs. But has to be a little bit lonely, too. Not many deep green countries having such stark contrast to a direct neighbor. Not many will understand the extra pressure or weight it carries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

To illustrate how difficult it can be to be Russia's neighbor, this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

Same could be said about Greece and the other balkan countries.

As the map shows being restrictive to LGBT rights is not something unique to Russia and the opposite is not unique to Finland.

I am also quite sure that long before Russias full scale invasion of Ukraine the cross border exchange of Finland and Russia was less than Greece and the other balkan countries or Italy and its northern neighbors have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 27 minutes ago

Well, not much deep green there outside of Greece, which is a country I love precisely for standing out in the region in a brilliant way. But it is true that despite the border lengths not being comparable in length, they have even tougher relations with the deep red neighbor.

Second, there has been a lot of exchange between our nations. It’s not so long that we gained our independence from them in the first place. I would guess it’s been much more extensive for this very reason. But it’s an apples to oranges kind of comparison, and doesn’t make sense to compare even if it wasn’t.

Finland is among the top 5 greens as far as I can tell with a basic eyedrop on the image. Russia is among the deepest reds. So there is nuance in that vs. the balkans especially, that are mostly in the yellow-orange shades.

But either way, just an observation. Not intended to belittle other countries. It is a stark contrast, which I just found noteworthy enough to bring up.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Surprised it's not Hungary.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The green and red thumbnail made me somehow read Portugal instead of Poland which left me confused for a second

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Turns out, in this case Italy and UK are the CYKABLYAT.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Europe is lucky it doesnt have USA in there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 41 minutes ago

The US is about average in a lot of that. Homosexuals are allowed to marry and most Americans including conservatives are for that. There are also quite a few anti discrimination laws on the book. Obviously Trump is not going to improve on that, but still as of right now, it is not that bad.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Why is there under almost very post not about the USA, someone mentioning the USA?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Honestly i guess its because it feels like Europe is not as important as USA for world econony or relations....

Maybe thats wrong. But it certainly feels like Europe is just not that important. And im a European.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

What do you mean?

That it'd be the worst state? That the US being inside the EU would be a bad thing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

I meant that with Trump in charge of the USA, it would be at the bottom of the ranking if it was included in the European stats.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why was it worse? Polish pope, focusing on spreading LGBT hate to Poland. Now, they're more focused on fighting off Russia.

Romania? I guess they're planning on fighting off the growing eastern orthodox Russians, and the Balkan muslims.

It's all a war with them. A perpetual war to influence and force people into their shitty religions.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

PiS is no longer able block LGBTQ+ events like Pride Parades and municipalities have withdrawn anti LGBTQ+ laws. They current government also created a number of hate speech laws, which would protect them, but the PiS president refuses to sign them.

So it seems to get better, but far from good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

there are elections next sunday and it's likely that next president will be a lib

[–] [email protected] -3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Since when exactly is Russia in the EU?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, I thought it said in Europe. My mistake

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

No problem ;)