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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Derek Lowe comes in with another sneer at techbro-optimism of collection of AI startup talking points wearing skins of people saying that definitely all medicine is solved, just throw more compute at it https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/end-disease (it's two weeks old, but it's not like any of you read him regularly). more relevantly he also links all his previous writing on this topic, starting with 2007 piece about techbros wondering why didn't anyone brought SV Disruption™ to pharma: https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/andy-grove-rich-famous-smart-and-wrong

interesting to see that he reaches some of pretty much compsci-flavoured conclusions despite not having compsci background. still not exactly there yet as he leaves some possibility of AGI

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

it’s not like any of you read him regularly

Of course not he is a capitalist pigdog! A traitor to the cause! Bla bla. ;)

I posted his work here before, despite thinking he isnt totally correct about his stance on capitalism stuff. He seems to be a good source on the whole medical chemistry science field. And quite skeptical and hype resistance. (Prob also why he I could make de self deprecating joke above). He wrote also negatively about the hackers who do homemade meds thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

In other news, SoundCloud's become the latest victim of the AI scourge - artists have recently discovered the TOS allows their work to be stolen for AI training since early 2024.

SoundCloud's already tried to quell the backlash, but they're getting accused of lying in the replies and the QRTs, so its safe to say its not working.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Artist notices that his horror creations get listed by AI bots as real. Decides to troll. It works. 2 hours, 1 source. We are so cooked.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The self-fulfilling prophecy machine will ensure that engorgement will become a household term

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Yes, of course this stuff isn't new, google bombing (or looking for the specific words where there suddenly are more black than white people on a google image search) has been a thing for a while now. But this has the added authority of googles AI saying it. And it also needs just 1 source (which always was a fiction account) which is what makes it scary.

The whole trust me im lying multi step program of getting something into the media can be tossed out. It is now even easier to lie online.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

Quick update from Brian Merchant: he's looking for stories about AI screwing people over.

If you've got any, send them to [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Here’s a fun one… Microsoft added copilot features to sharepoint. The copilot system has its own set of access controls. The access controls let it see things that normal users might not be able to see. Normal users can then just ask copilot to tell them the contents of the files and pages that they can’t see themselves. Luckily, no business would ever put sensitive information in their sharepoint system, so this isn’t a realistic threat, haha.

Obviously Microsoft have significant resources to research and fix the security problems that LLM integration will bring with it. So much money. So many experts. Plenty of time to think about the issues since the first recall debacle.

And this is what they’ve accomplished.

https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/exploiting-copilot-ai-for-sharepoint/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is that this one or a different instance of the same bug?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

I think that these are different products? I mean, the underlying problem is the same, but copilot studio seems to be “configure your own llm front-end” and copilot for sharepoint seems to be an integration made by the sharepoint team themselves, and it does make some promises about security.

Of course, it might be exactly the same thing with different branding slapped on top, and I’m not sure you could tell without some inside information, but at least this time the security failures are the fault of Microsoft themselves rather than incompetent third party folk. And that suggests that copilot studio is so difficult to use correctly that no-one can, which is funny.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

Abusing privileged identities like this to do things is apparently a thing the younger hackers are quite good at so this will all be fun.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

@rook @BlueMonday1984 wow. Why go to all the trouble of social engineering a company when you can just ask Copilot?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

@rook @BlueMonday1984 Maybe they have asked CoPilot to write the code that restricts access for CoPilot?

(Sometimes this future feels like 2001 A Space Odyssey, just as a farce. And without benevolent aliens.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

@rook @BlueMonday1984

Thankfully I'm able to say "what is sharepoint?"

I did meet it once. A client used it in their office. But when they wanted us offshore (via satellite link) to contribute to it, it became awfully unstable, probably because of latency/ unstable data links.

It's M$. I doubt it has improved.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They’re already doing phrenology and transphobia on the pope.

(screenshot of a Twitter post with dubious coloured lines overlaid on some photos of the pope’s head, claiming a better match for a “female” skull shape)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I've never looked into how they do the phrenology but was immediately struck by the "female" skull having larger forehead. So they say women are big brained?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

The Male vs Female skull. Science!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

I think this mostly proves that Leo XIV is a moe anime character.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Painting a cross on the skull of the pope and then claiming this is wrong is a whole new kind of heresy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

.....I was unprepared for reading this post

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Got a nice and lengthy sneer from film blog That Final Scene: the uncanny valet is not your friend (and other AI stories)

Beyond being an utter castigation of AI bros' "attempts" at aping art, its also wonderfully written from start to finish. Go check it out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

New eugenics conference just dropped

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/8ZExgaGnvLevkZxR5/attend-the-2025-reproductive-frontiers-summit-june-10-12

"Chatham House rules" so they can happily be racist without anyone pointing fingers at them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

the genomic emancipation of humanity

ffs, the euphemisms keep piling on today.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

https://xcancel.com/GuiveAssadi/status/1920232405324955825

Steven Pinker: I've been part of some not so successful attempts to come up with secular humanist substitutes for religion.

Interviewer: What is the worst one you've been involved in?

Steven Pinker: Probably the rationalist solstice in Berkeley, which included hymns to the benefits of global supply chains. I mean, I actually completely endorse the lyrics of the song, but there's something a bit cringe about the performance.

from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTVJjmabaas which nobody should watch, obviously

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

If someone creates the world's worst playlist, that would play right after RMS's free software song.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I remind you that the original folk song is a fucking banger and nerds have only heard the worst version in the world

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

🎵 I'm a drop-shipping girl / in a shittified world / chat me up / bot me down / let's go party! 🎵

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

hymns to the benefits of global supply chains

We did it, we discovered awful's equivalent to Nostalgia Critic's The Wall

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I want to make a CoE joke or something but jesus christ you really can’t improve on this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OT: Estonia (and Helsinki) were very nice, but I did not see a single delivery robot running around. Stayed across from the MalwareBytes HQ tho, I thought that was cool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

There certainly are delivery robots going around in Helsinki, but not to the extent you're guaranteed to see them on any given day if you're just strolling around.

Glad you enjoyed your visit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

broadcom continuing to make vmware even more unappealing

bit of a fucking weird thing to do, too. guess they’re going full oracle?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

subscriptionless vmware users

perpetual license holders

What a bunch of weird and off-putting ways to avoid saying owners of a product that they fucking bought.

The article is about broadcom sending cease and desists to vmware owners who download updates by the way, because apparently to be entitled to any kind of after sale support you need to be leasing the product.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What if we throw the CEO into a peat bog when the company underperforms?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

finger guns activated 🟩 👉👉

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Polymarket on the new pope skeet

Also there already is a bsky user with the username leoxiv, who makes from what I can tell final fantasy poses, some nsfw. Lol.

Skeet descriptionG Elliott Morris ‪@gelliottmorris.com‬ :"A mere 2 hours ago, betting markets were giving the now Pope a 0% chance of becoming Pope. Lmfao"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Also there already is a bsky user with the username leoxiv, who makes from what I can tell final fantasy poses, some nsfw. Lol.

Being a bit more specific, its Final Fantasy XIV, which you've probably heard about from people using its free trial as meme material. Its also a better example of the metaverse than any actual metaverse out there, but that's a given for literally any MMO that has popped up for the last twenty fucking years.

Also:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

When the cubbies won the series, I knew it meant that Trump 2016 was a lock. A Chicago pope can only mean Trump 2028 confirmed 😭

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

No, no, the Gays are fine actually. What I really hate is ketchup.

--God, probably

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I know the Rationalists tend to like (or used to) Freakonomics (contrarians recognize contrarians), and the Freakonomics podcast (there always is a podcast isn't there), so I was amused to see the YT channel 'Unlearning Economics', do a 'The Death of Freakonomics' episode.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Honestly I think his whole channel is pretty damn good if you want to see someone with actual chops - here meaning an economics doctorate and an encyclopedic memory for The Simpsons memes - dig into the research in a way that effectively balances depth and approachability. The first one of his that I remember was an examination of Pinker's use and abuse of data in his radical optimist manifesto that I can't remember the title of.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Obligatory: If books could kill was started because they wanted to do a freakonomics takedown, lol. It’s their first ep.

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