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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

well, today i (partially) realized why my basic drivers don't work: the preinstalled packages amdgpu and amdgpu-dkms seem to not work due to amdgpu-dkms being unconfigured. tried configuring it and got the same error. around about there my system stopped using even the iGPU and i had to uninstall some other drivers (thanks @[email protected] )

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[-] [email protected] 144 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

AMD drivers are plug n play? They are part of mesa and you don't need to do anything, why would you need to install anything else?

Edit: except rocm

[-] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago
[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago

ROCM is well supported by docker PCI passthrough with official packages. So much better than polluting your workstation and maintaining the stack

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Even ROCm on some distros isn't that bad. On my 7900 XTX (admittedly an officially supported card, your mileage may vary on unofficial cards) on Fedora it was just a case of doing sudo dnf install rocm-* and everything installed (might be some extra packages you need after for specific apps, but you know if you need them). On openSUSE though, it was a total pain.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Don't they support like 3 cards?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Rocm usually needs an override line in pip wheel/python, not the driver itself at least from my experience

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately they workn't. :(

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

real rocm moment

[-] [email protected] 74 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Which distro are you using? AMD has been completely plug-and-play for me.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

My R9 390 was a huge pain in the ass to get working on any distro, but I think it was the last card before they fixed whatever issue it was.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Yeah, afaik it's exactly one of the cards that require manual intervention or a switch to the radeon driver. Bad generation to run on Linux.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

I have a r9 380. It's been amazing on Linux

This was on Windows:

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago
[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Now I want that as a KDE theme

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Too bad. It's a Windows exclusive and requires specific hardware.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The R9 380 was a rebrand of the R9 285, which was the first card to require the use of the new amdgpu driver. The R9 390 was a rebrand of the R9 290, which did not force the use of amdgpu, but optionally supports it through a kernel flag.

Source: I have an R9 380.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Ah, makes a lot of sense.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Kbuntu 22.04 w/ radeon R9 M360

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Have you enabled Southern Islands support as a kernel parameter? Your generation of GPU was originally supported on radeon, so you need to explicitly enable SI (Southern Islands) support to use amdgpu.

See ArchWiki for more information

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Ill try that, thanks! I'm just distrohopping to Kinoite, and ill try it then if it doesn't work.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

As a relative Linux noob and Nvidia card owner, I keep hearing how it'll be so much easier if I go AMD. Is that not true?

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

You typically only have issues if you want to use a newly released card with a distro that doesn't run a recent kernel or if you want to use GPU compute.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Can confirm:

  • When I bought an RX Vega 56 on launch day seven years ago and installed it the same day, I had to go with the proprietary AMDGPU-PRO driver (on Kubuntu) because the Free drivers didn't support it yet.

  • When I bought an RX 9070 XT on launch day two months ago but took a few weeks to install it (because it was wider than my old Vega I had to get a different case, which I spent a little while deciding on), I had to upgrade to the actual latest mainline kernel instead of the one Kubuntu shipped with, but then it "just worked" without any proprietary drivers. (The same would've been true had I installed it immediately on launch day as 6.13.5, which added support for it, came out before the card was released.)

Of course, it suddenly occurs to me upon reading this thread that I haven't tried the new card out with GPGPU or LLM-type stuff yet, and since I'm not using the proprietary driver this time I guess I still need to install ROCm. Oops, LOL.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

It is. OP is just using an old-ass card from many years ago.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Generally yes, if you use any modern card. Older ones might require to switch to an older driver (before "amdgpu" there was one called "radeon", by default any distro I know comes with the modern amdgpu). There are also two AMD GPU generations (I think HD7000/Rx 200 and Rx 300) that can be a little bit nasty as the driver change happened around that time, those sometimes need manual intervention.

Anything newer (RX 550 and higher) pretty much always work without any hitch or additional steps required.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

It is true and has been my experience for the last decade or so. Unfortunately, OP is trying to use a GPU from 2015 that's still based on GCN 1.0 with the newer amdgpu driver stack, which is not officially supported. Effectively, OP is getting a taste of what it was like before AMD started pouring ressources into their open source GPU drivers.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

AMD used to be a huge pain in the ass to get working, but that hasn't been true for a while now.

[-] bdonvr 7 points 2 months ago

No AMD is fine. You pretty much never need to install anything to get full performance from it, not sure what OP is up to maybe ROCm which is like, AI-related stuff. Not something most people need.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

AMD is much MUCH better to set up, I have an AMD laptop and setup for drivers is just adding amdgpu to the boot flags (NixOS btw), for Nvidia on my main pc I had to go to hell and back to get it mostly working and even then Zed sometimes causes my kernel to panic (But I'm not 100% sure if it's because of the Nvidia drivers)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I think I just got unlucky with the drivers.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I've been happily running the mesa-dev stack (mesa-tkg-git from the chaotic-aur repo) both on semi-current hardware (an RX 6600 that's sidelined by a bad fan atm) and somewhat older hardware (the Vega 56 I'm using as a backup because it's my second best card after the RX 6600) for a while now so I don't know what you're doing.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

sudo pacman -Sy mesa vulkan-radeon (or smth like that)

Edit: Yeah, I know, Syu. I very rarely not do Syu. But /usr/bin/brain segfaulted while trying to be smart.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

-Sy is recommended against. -S or -Syu, but not -Sy

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Can I ask why? I’m newer to Arch and I legit don’t know.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

-S means sync, or to install/update a package
y means to update the local package db, so which packages are available and especially which version is newest
u means update the packages themselves

So -Sy would just get which newest packages are available, and then install eg. mesa version 6.9. However, mesa version 6.9 may depend on ligmalib 3.2. However, because you didn't specify -u, ligmalib 3.1 is not updated to 3.2. And then you have a partial update.

Arch's package system basically relies on all packages in all single points in time being compatible with each other. So if you look at the db now, all packages should have the correct versions of dependencies available. But if you mix different states, eg. update a few packages at 2:00 and some others at 17:00, that's not given anymore

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

@sudoleah @myersguy this will refresh db without updating system and install package. If new package depends on newer libraries than other installed packages, it will break dependencies for installed packages. That might be easily solved with local solib dependency tracking (like gentoo preserved-libs database), but arch does not have it.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Same question for me. I’ve never heard this.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, only thought that halfway through lol

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I had to install a pacman package and change a config so my system would use vulkan instead of opengl. Other than that, nothing should be needed.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Is this even an issue anymore? I guess it might depend on what distro you're using, but I'm using mint and shit's running flawlessly on modern amd hardware.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I dealt with this at work recently with an HP laptop...lots of trial and error. It was honestly a miracle that ssh had been setup before updating but otherwise never would have been able to keep picking at it. Gave up eventually but that sucked.

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