Today, Congressman Shri Thanedar (MI-13) introduced articles of impeachment against Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, citing a sweeping abuse of power, flagrant violations of the Constitution, and acts of tyranny that undermine American democracy and threaten the rule of law.

"Donald Trump has repeatedly demonstrated that he is unfit to serve as President and represents a clear and present danger to our nation’s constitution and our democracy," said Rep. Thanedar. "His unlawful actions have subverted the justice system, violated the separation of powers, and placed personal power and self-interest above public service. We cannot wait for more damage to be done. Congress must act."

The resolution includes seven articles of impeachment outlining a range of constitutional violations.

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[–] 212 points 1 year ago (9 children)

While good, we all know that the House won't pass this, and if they did the Senate won't confirm it.

I've said it before elsewhere but it needs to be heard...

It's just wild to me continually seeing posts not understanding how this all works, and how it would play out. It's like the people who thought China paid the tariffs...

The house is almost tied. That's who passes bills, handles impeachments, some of the most powerful committees are, and who impeaches Presidents...

218 Republicans, 213 Democrats.

Let's see, take New York for example.

26 representatives total, 19 Democrat and 7 Republican.

5 of those were within 2 points last time their seat was up.

People who think that New York is blue, their vote doesn't matter, skips the votes for the House and Senate and end up losing a Blue house seat but later complain that nothing changes are literally the fucking problem.

Every. Fucking. State. Is. Like. This.

Apathetic morons who don't realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government then wave their hands around when they did jack shit to help put people in place to, are the fucking problem.

District 3 of California was lost by 24,000 votes. District 22 was lost by 3,000.

Those two seats in the house, along with the close ones in New York, Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, hell every state... Are what makes the House of Representatives or breaks it.

So, if you think that your vote for president doesn't matter, so you skip voting and let these other seats slip, yes, you're a fucking moron who can't grasp basic concepts of government that are taught in 4th grade.

And don't get me started on the State House/Senates, how they define voting laws and voting zones and engage in gerrymandering.

Every fucking vote counts.

And until the country realizes it, and starts acting on it, we'll keep getting the shit we deserve.

House needs a simple majority, and two thirds of the Senate.

Democrats would need ~18 seats.

First, that won't happen in 2026.

Even the best cases make it hard to win enough by 2028. Which is why impeachment is just not something we can hold out for.

Gerrymandering is part of why this is a problem, which is done at the local level, and again why every vote counts.

How could it play out? Assuming some absurdly weird upside down world just opposite of what we're living in, this is the only path just looking at the numbers...

Again, Democrats would need to gain 18 net seats. Seats Potentially in Play (Republican Incumbents): This requires looking at seats up in upcoming cycles.

  • Class 1 Seats (Up in 2026):
    • Highly Competitive Targets: These would be the first priority. States where Democrats have won statewide recently or that lean only slightly Republican. Examples based on recent political history might include:
      • North Carolina (Budd-R)
      • Alaska (Sullivan-R) - Unique dynamics with ranked-choice voting.
    • Stretch Targets: States that are more Republican but could potentially flip under exceptionally favorable conditions (like the hypothetical turnout).
      • Iowa (Ernst-R)
      • Montana (Daines-R) - Depends heavily on candidate matchups.
      • Kentucky (McConnell-R's seat - potential retirement changes dynamics)
      • Kansas (Marshall-R)
      • South Carolina (Graham-R)
    • Very Difficult Targets: Solidly Republican states requiring overwhelming Democratic turnout and significant shifts among other voters.
      • Texas (Cornyn-R)
      • Mississippi (Wicker-R)
      • Alabama (Tuberville-R)
      • West Virginia (Capito-R)
      • Oklahoma (Mullin-R - Special election winner)
      • Wyoming (Lummis-R)
      • Idaho (Risch-R)
      • Arkansas (Cotton-R)
      • Nebraska (Ricketts-R)
      • South Dakota (Rounds-R)
      • Louisiana (Cassidy-R) - Jungle primary system.
  • Class 2 Seats (Up in 2028): (Looking further ahead)
    • Highly Competitive Targets:
      • Maine (Collins-R) - Often competitive, depends on matchup.
      • Georgia (Perdue/Ossoff dynamic showed competitiveness, depends who holds it after '26 potentially) - Assuming GOP holds a seat here.
    • Stretch Targets:
      • Michigan (Peters-D currently, but listing potential GOP flips back if one happened hypothetically before 2028) - Generally leans D, but could be contested.
      • New Hampshire (Shaheen-D currently) - Generally leans D, but listing potential GOP flips back.
    • Very Difficult Targets: (Many solidly Republican states)
      • Tennessee (Hagerty-R)
      • Alaska (Murkowski-R historically, depends on dynamics)
      • North Carolina (Tillis-R)
      • Iowa (Grassley-R seat potentially)
      • Texas (Cruz-R)
      • Kentucky (Paul-R)
      • And many others similar to the 2026 list (SC, AL, MS, WY, ID, NE, SD, KS, WV, OK).

It's going to take an absolutely historic level of pain to both drive enough people to vote MAGA out to make this change though.

The amount that's being excused, sanewashed, and just drowned out with other absurdities...

We're on all on this shit ride until some new wildcard comes into play.

No impeachment, no Supreme Court, no guardrail is going to change that.

Something new and unaccounted for is the only feasible catalyst.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes. People need to get out and fucking vote. Anything less than 80% participation in a presidential election is shameful.

    But you need to do some background I think. California 22 might be "only" 3k, but it was 53%-47% in 2024. It's also voted Republican since 2002 (1) The real headfuck about CA-22 is how it's 73% Hispanic and reliably red.

    Same shit with CA-3. "Only 24,000 votes" - they won that district by ten bloody points 55%-45%. There were 400,000 votes in the district. Thought it's a little more purple. (2)

    Also, your numbers are off compared to wiki. Not sure where the discrepancy is but CA-22 and CA-3 were lost by 11,000 and 46,000 respectively.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean, the inevitable march of time winning is a real possibility as far as the cheetoh is concerned.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I appreciate the effort behind your comment. Unfortunately, it will likely fall on deaf ears among those who most need to understand our government — no different from the MAGA crowd. I don’t mean this condescending. It’s just unfortunate how poorly our education system prepares Americans, across the political spectrum, for their civic responsibilities.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And then someone still has to drag him out

    Who's gonna do that? The Justice Department full of Trump cronies?

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I've never done this before but it's actually time to call my congressman.

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    [–] 48 points 1 year ago

    Good. They should keep doing this for everything he does illegally.

    Even if it won't amount to anything, we're getting Republicans on the record as saying they support Trump.

    Makes it tough for the inevitable "I didn't side with Trump" statements we'll hear when he is finally gone.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Congressman Shri Thanedar (MI-13)

    MI-13? That's almost MS-13! Bake him away toys!

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    [–] 36 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Put him in a bigger peach this time so he can't get out

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    [–] 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Impeachment on its own I can't bring myself to care about. It needs to come with "and removal" for it to matter.

    And even then that means president Vance. It would still matter because Vance is a weaker villain lacking the full undying support of the MAGA death cult but shit would still suck, just suck in a way where there would be more hope.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Peter Theil is the Sociopathic Oligarch that holds Vance's leash, and he is far worse than Skum. Skum is stupid, and ego/attention-driven, while Theil is intelligent and strategic. Theil is one of the primary leaders in the Sociopathic Oligarch Libertarian movement, following the writings of Curtis Yarvin (Google him). One of Yarvan's most important principles is to do away with all democracies, and force nations answer to the Sociopathic Oligarchs, instead of them answering to nations. Vance is on board with this, and quotes Yarvin often.

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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    How long until MAGAs use "MI-13" as evidence of a link to MS-13? Taking bets.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I feel like we've been here before

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    It's a waste for a D to bring Impeachment charges. Unless Rs do it, it will never pass and will always seem politically motivated.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Regardless, its nice to see someone actually trying to do something.

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I get the point but this will just result in a “official act” response and a hand wave.

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    Can someone ELI5 what impeachment even achieves, and why it seemed to do nothing last time? Is it just a badge of dishonour?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    An impeachment conviction results in removal from office. The previous impeachment proceedings did not result in a conviction.

    (Edit for additional information: While an impeachment uses terms like "trial" and "conviction" it is not a judicial proceeding. It is entirely a legislative proceeding which is formatted to resemble a judicial one, but is not bound to judicial procedure and it also can not produce a criminal conviction or sentence.)

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    On one hand, great! On the other, wonder if this is in response to justice democrats targeting him.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/04/28/justice-democrats-shri-thanedar-donavan-mckinney

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