I see what your saying. It's a broad concept but the process for professional recognition can accommodate that. The topic at question is how do we ensure engineers are ethical in how they operate and professional registration and protection of the role along with the assurances that go with that are a good way to achieve it. I know in law in Australia you must be registered with the local law regulator to practice and members must adhere to strict ethical standards. If you are reported and found to be breach those standards you will not be able to practice any more. Meanwhile engineers are polluting and building weapons ad nauseum with limited repercussions. Engineers are held accountable in most regions legally but laws usually apply to safety, not building/designing unethical things.

So I find the UK a good example of how professional registration can be done well. Each discipline has an organisation that handles chartership specific to that discipline. The IET does a lot of lifting for all things electrical, including communications/telecoms, but I believe they would cover some software engineering depending on what your focus was. BCS, CISec or IfSE would likely cover most software engineering.

My experience tends to be with the IET. They are internationally recognised and have branches in a lot of countries. If you have no local support within your company they will connect you with an existing chartered member in your field who can help with advice and chartership application review. I know with Engineers Australia you can migrate your chartership from the IET to Engineers Australia without too much difficulty. Engineers Australia is a single organisation for all disciplines which is then open to the issues you mention. The UK orgs are all regulated by the engineering council which manages a consistent specification for all orgs to hold their members to, the orgs then review applications specific to the discipline against the requirements of the spec.

Unrelated discipline? Why would you claim to be an engineer if your work was not related to engineering?

Tony's chocolonley?

I switched to obsidian and haven't looked back. It doesn't appear to have stylus input in the core application (I don't need that), but it does look like there are a couple of community plugins that enable the support. Not sure how good they are though.

Oh yeah, Robert Kraft is totally going to donate money to Palestine, if he donates anything it'll be to some kind of fake IDF front charity.

A professional engineer would be someone who's chartered with a recognised engineering institution (Engineers Europe and it's related Orgs in Europe, Engineering Council and related orgs in the UK, Engineers Australia in Australia etc) and the title would depend on the what the institution want to call them. The professional instution outlines ethical and behavioural requirements to maintain membership.

An Engineer usually refers to someone who does a job related to design and planning for a technical discipline (civil, mechanical, structural, electrical, software etc). The job role usually requires a degree in he engineering disciple, but if you were a particularly fantastic and experienced technical person you might be able to fill the role without one. There will likely be areas of knowledge where you'd be lacking in that case though.

I'm saying the job role could be made to require the chartership to help enforce adherence to the ethical requirements of those governing institutions.

Yeah I agree with this

You're assuming AngryishHumanoid is assuming Ed Sheeran is making a good faith attempt at neutrality, but I read it more that they are observing that Ed Sheeran is making a decision on his business that he claims is a good faith attempt at neutrality, but then they are saying that the decision they have observed is shit.

You two are using different definitions of the word "undertanding". AngryishHumanoid is saying they comprehend the decision, you're saying they agree with it. Both definitions are definitions of the word but the interpretation of the statement using those definitions is different.

You'd have to make engineer a protected title for that and enforce membership and chartership with your locally recognised engineering institutions to allow working under the title. They do that in Queensland Australia. It's not enforced in our other states, which is odd given Queensland is Australia's Florida ..

Getting a job as an engineer in the UK was hard work because every ridiculous job and it's dog was claiming to be an engineering role. The guy terminating a wall socket for your internet connection: telecoms engineer apparently. Rough gig for having burnt 5 years at university ..

His replacement and touring band are founding members for the "Irish Artists for Palestine" movement and he didn't think they'd have a problem with this?

They could be the All Cocks instead?

Seems like it wouldn't be too hard to tax the big businesses that have been profiteering off of dumping shit in the rivers and countryside to pay for it.