Who was mean to you I will end them

I can relate to that, some people here immediately turn into incredibly shitty giga libs when their privilege is being called out. As a white girl i lack firsthand experience with the racial side of that, so i'm not gonna judge how widespread that behavior is, but i know how various forms of reactionary liberalism go together and how super fucking fragile a few of the cishet dudes on here get when queer women dare to bring up their perspective in ways that question the role of straight men in the patriarchy. It's not hard to imagine that they act the same way when confronted with their mayonaisity. As marginalized comrades, we're only supposed to assure these libs that they are actual leftists completely innocent in systemic opression, not call out where they need to do self crit. It's the usual shit where members of dominant society ask us for absolution instead of our honest opinion. I hope you stick around, i always enjoy reading your posts, i love that they make this site a little less painfully crackerish, and i think we just need to keep going and confront these people with uncomfortable truths, because this site is a place where that can actually gain traction and lead to people learning and improving.

We need to be doing TC69 thought to protect our bipoc users as much as we do our queer users. Some of the shit said in that thread was just not ok. Not good faith question asking at all.

One poster in particular in that thread can go fuck themselves, but honestly I feel a huge Fuucck all you to the upvoters and other posters whining about "but you're alienating your white allies" bullshit.

Don't let these assholes drive you out, or define your relationship with yourself, much less this site. Don't internalize your anger, externalize it and know that the problem is them.

By all means take a break, cool off, or retract from Hexbear a bit and block c/dunk_tank if you must to filter the pornography of outrage.

Fuck tempest in particular though.

We need a transcomrade69 but for racism

I've been reading through the last few days of posts. Fuck those fuckers Othello. You're one of the coolest posters here, and I'm sorry you had to put up with such repeated caucasity without a single PPB to back you up.

have a personal meow

To preface this: I am white.

To any white people who are even slightly upset about anti-white sentiment, ironic or unironic: you need to get the FUCK over yourself. Read The Wretched of the Earth, Open Veins of Latin America, How Europe Underdeveloped Africa, Divided World Divided Class, White Malice, Late Victorian Holocausts, Unequal Exchange, Neo-Colonialism, The Wages of Whiteness, and a thousand other books until it fucking sinks in.

Every "white" country on Earth (barring maybe a few of the most backward European states) is parasitic. All siphon wealth from the non-white world into the white world, both externally and internally. They then distribute this money, to a very large extent, on the basis of race.

This means that race is a factor in class. That's why the most useless and anti-revolutionary tendencies of Communism all come out of Europe. You can see this fracture play out in every "white" nation. Even the "radical" white population breaks solidarity with the colonial population. White labor unions rejecting PoC, white Communist parties failing to grasp the race question and behaving chauvinistically, white "radicals" turning against anti-colonial fighters.

In light of this history, this class dynamic, and the ongoing racial depravity, to chide PoCs for "undermining solidarity" is the height of arrogance and chauvinism. Get the fuck over yourself. Unless you want to hand over the 90% of your material comfort that you owe to the accident of your place of birth and skin color, shut the fuck up.

I haven't seen anybody going at you so I'm sure I must have missed it. Every one of your posts and comments I've read I've found to be informative. Your perspective is cool and good and welcome, fuck the haters.

Full disclosure, I'm white, so I don't have any direct experience with racism, but I am trans, disabled, and poor, so I do have some experience with oppression. That said, fuck people who demand oppressed people always remain civil and never express anything negative, lest their precious oppresser fee-fees get hurt. We're allowed to be fucking angry and tired of shit. We should be allowed to fucking vent without worrying about "allies" getting pissy. Solidarity comes from the top down. It needs to be unconditional. And it shouldn't depend on the oppressed being nice to their oppressors.

Sending you lots of love and solidarity, comrade.

The fundamental problem is that Hexbear (and the rest of the Anglo social media sites) is it's filled with mayos who have never dealt with people who have skin color darker than a sheet of paper. This is how you get people here making asinine jokes that replacing c/k with kkk is somehow "standard Maoist English." Like, just how fucking out of touch are you? At this point, Hexbear (and every other Lemmy instance where a European language is used) will never not be awkward about race. I don't blame you or any other POC for quitting Hexbear because the amount of mayos is off-putting. I'm not sure how POC accounts can feel welcome here if those racist crackers at that other thread haven't been banned yet. Those bigoted losers would be long gone if they were saying transphobic shit, but they still get to keep their accounts for being racist shitheads. Why the double standard?

The only way for a POC-friendly social media site to take off is if doxxing your face is build in to the social media site itself, whether through technological or social means. Black Twitter works because there's the social understanding that if your avi isn't your Black face, you're not really Black. Black Reddit works because mods require people to show their arm with their username written on it. Outside of those little pockets where you have to doxx yourself or learning a non-European language in order to use that language's social media sites, there's really no hope for any POC to feel safe or welcome.

ive personally really enjoyed seeing all of your contributions and i feel like you are genuinely trying to make this site a nicer place. idk what went down but id be sad to see you go

it'll probably be good to take a break for bit, which is always nice in its own way. this should be a place where you enjoy spending your time and if that's not happening you should be doing those things instead

ily and your posts othello don't leave

point the haters my way I will take up arms for you

It is a reality of this site being hugely white by proportion as @[email protected] mentions, and being confronted about the reality of POC’s life experiences doesn’t always go over well, even here. I understand how it wears one down and can’t blame you at all for feeling this way, but you’ve been a great voice here I think. I hope Hexbear can work on purging this shit because this is the same hostility and dismissal that’s too common outside of spaces that claim to be safe and understanding. And to find the same here…?

Your posts are always insightful imo. It feels like there aren’t a lot of voices speaking about black experiences and struggles here and I’m glad you’re doing so. It’s not easy to dismiss when you receive it but please don’t let those shitters get you down.

im supposed to be reading and I cant even focus.

I think you've been a lovely contributor to the community and I would be sad if you left. Make sure to report any reactionaries so that the mods can... deal with them

But first and foremost take care of yourself comrade

mods, purge everyone who made them sad

You're extremely cool and we're happy to have you in this space. It blows that people are being shit about things and I will continue to ban and timeout dipshits in my part of this space. You are always welcome here and I appreciate your posts.

I missed whatever happened earlier, but if anybody on this site has a problem with Fanon then they can fight me (and the same goes for George Jackson)

Fanon is cool and so are you.

Craackkkers gotta do some self-crit

To Othello: You are super cool and I really appreciate reading what you have to say. I really appreciate your perspective and all you give to this community. I hope the rest of us can make this a good enough place for you to stay. You deserve a good place where your comrades have your back. [/gen, angry on your behalf, hoping you stay]

To the white fragile people who were being assholes to Othello,: Raise your fucking standards for yourself. Read. Learn. Don't take out your fragility and big feelings about race on black people. Do you feel upset when a black person expresses feelings about race? Do some reading about the history of racism. Do some emotional work. Don't turn your ignorance and your feelings into a burden for black people. Don't take out your insecurities, your anger, your fragility, your fear on black people. Deal with it yourself. If you don't have the tools, find them. Research. Learn. And if you don't have the energy for that, then shut the fuck up.

To my fellow white people on this site: We have to do better about defending our black, indigenous, and people of color comrades on this site. Yes, it takes work to learn, it takes time and energy and discomfort and going outside of our comfort zones. But we have to do that work, and we have to do a better job. We have to collectively create a site where our black, indigenous, and people of color comrades feel safe, where they know we'll be there for them and have their backs. It's fun to shitpost, and shitposting is an important part of the culture here too. But we also have to do ongoing work to make it so that when we see racism, we notice it, and call it out. It might take the mods a while to get to delete and ban racism, but we should be there to back our comrades up and make racists feel unwelcome. An important part of leftism is making sure that we have spaces that feel good for our comrades to be in. We need to be able to create and maintain spaces that are supportive. With the federations having happened, there's been somewhat of a focus on bringing leftism to other communities, educating outsiders etc, but we also have to remember that gaining numbers by bringing in outsiders is not the only factor affecting numbers. If we bring in assholes, and then they drive out people from minority groups, then we haven't actually gained anything good. We need to create spaces where our black, indigenous, and people of color comrades can stay. And from my digging to try to figure out what this was all about, it sounds like some (or all? not sure) of the users harassing Othello were from inside hexbear. So we need to do better. We need to go out of our way to do the emotional work, educate ourselves, and actively look for racism on the site so we can stamp it out.

You're one of my favorite posters and this site would be shittier without you. I only saw the beginnings of the shit show with the offended honkies, and was kinda surprised too. Fuck em. We're probably getting an influx of redditors (read: wreckers) and going to dunk them into oblivion.

Your response to that fucked up /r/Europe thread was the correct one and anyone who's so defensive about their whiteness is not a comrade.

Edit: Dang, looked at that thread again and I wish I'd been in the posting trenches with you.

to every :LIB: upset at you discussing whiteness:

also I hope you reported all those crackers so the mods nuke their asses

All the hate to those haters. Other people unable to contend with their personal contradictions is not your fault and you've handled yourself remarkabley despite the recent stream of piss and shid from people who don't know the first thing about you. I see you, hear you, and appreciate your presence and posts. Hexbear has a lot of positive things going for it, but stuff like this shows how white it still is. I can only say that as a honkey who has had to do a lot of personal work and self-crit about what that means.

fuuuck i missed everything but stay