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To preface this: I am white.
To any white people who are even slightly upset about anti-white sentiment, ironic or unironic: you need to get the FUCK over yourself. Read The Wretched of the Earth, Open Veins of Latin America, How Europe Underdeveloped Africa, Divided World Divided Class, White Malice, Late Victorian Holocausts, Unequal Exchange, Neo-Colonialism, The Wages of Whiteness, and a thousand other books until it fucking sinks in.
Every "white" country on Earth (barring maybe a few of the most backward European states) is parasitic. All siphon wealth from the non-white world into the white world, both externally and internally. They then distribute this money, to a very large extent, on the basis of race.
This means that race is a factor in class. That's why the most useless and anti-revolutionary tendencies of Communism all come out of Europe. You can see this fracture play out in every "white" nation. Even the "radical" white population breaks solidarity with the colonial population. White labor unions rejecting PoC, white Communist parties failing to grasp the race question and behaving chauvinistically, white "radicals" turning against anti-colonial fighters.
In light of this history, this class dynamic, and the ongoing racial depravity, to chide PoCs for "undermining solidarity" is the height of arrogance and chauvinism. Get the fuck over yourself. Unless you want to hand over the 90% of your material comfort that you owe to the accident of your place of birth and skin color, shut the fuck up.
And that's barely even touching on anything superstructural. Given this apparent material base of white parasitism, it's obvious to see why we live in the world of white supremacy that we do. White people have identified, on a conscious or unconscious level, that they effectively constitute a class. The disdain, domination, disgust, discrimination, and disregard that nobles manifest toward their serfs can be seen in the way white people treat PoCs.
Given all this, both the morally correct and "historically progressive" position are the same. To bring about global revolution, we must attack the systems of Imperialism, Neo-Colonialism, and Unequal Exchange that have kept the Global South oppressed and the Global North content, and the system of racism that harms and exploits internal colonial populations. Compradors will lose their control, Imperialists will be unable to muster the resources they need for dominance, and white people will suddenly feel quite a lot of urgency in finding an alternative to Capitalism.
To /u/Othello: you're very cool, I hope you stick around, and I'm sorry for hijacking your post. I hope it's an acceptable subject and perspective.
dont you dare apologize for this excellent comment. bravo.
sorry i didnt respond to your question by the way i was overwhelmed and exhausted, and you seemed good faith if naive. I dont actually hate individual white people I hate the concept of whiteness and what white people have done to me collectively as a group. I dont want to hurt white babies, i dont want to hurt anyone but the bourgeoisie. I do absolutely want remove white peoples ability to oppress anyone and that will take violence. violence is the medicine, the treatment to the illness that is white supremacy. I dont LIKE taking medicine but I want and need it. also yes when i say fuck white people I am venting, not calling for anything. im a human not a perfect political tool-thing. you seem mostly based and cool (i see you around) so i have no problem continuing this convo if you have more questions. lastly most poc in america talk like this among friends, perhaps my mistke was growing too comfortable on here.
edit mods got ya, perhaps you weren't good faith lol. idk i dont feel like hunting through the modlog .
I appreciate the response and I feel like I understand the reasoning much better now.
I take things too literally, and am terrible at reading tone, hence my earlier confusion.
I should not have spoken up in ignorance and I apologize for any hurt I caused by doing so. I am blinded by my own biases and I promise I will try to break them over time.
I did get banned but I will just do my best to learn from that experience and move on.
i messaged the mods to hopefully get you unbanned. I dont think you are a bad person. also dont take this the wrong way but i thought to my self while reading your comments "this seems like an extremely sheltered white boy who doesnt understand poc humor/expression at all. eh hes seem sheltered ill respond when I have the energy". no harm done other then moderate irritation. i hope you get unbanned and if not good luck out there maybe you can just use this account.