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In December, Luigi Mangione was arrested for shooting health insurance executive Brian Thompson. Last week, Trump’s attorney general, Pam Bondi, announced that she was seeking the death penalty. It’s a highly unusual announcement, since Mangione hasn’t even been indicted yet on a federal level. (He has been indicted in Manhattan.) By intervening in this high-profile case, the Trump administration has made clear that it believes that CEOs are especially important people whose deaths need to be swiftly and mercilessly avenged.

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[-] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 159 points 1 year ago

I think the death penalty being on the table would increase the likelihood of the jury finding a reasonable doubt or jury nullification. It would only hurt the prosecution imo.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 128 points 1 year ago

OR it's going to prejudice the jury against him, like it usually does.

When capital punishment is on the table, only people who are in favor of it are selected for the jury, and people who are in favor of state murder are MUCH more likely to return a guilty verdict than people who aren't.

That's one of hundreds of reasons why civilized legal systems don't murder prisoners anymore.

[-] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 35 points 1 year ago

Why the fuck does the prosecution have the ability to put punishments on the table that are known to bias jury selection?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 1 year ago

Because the system itself is rigged in favor of the prosecution by design.

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[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Yup. One of the main reasons people oppose the death penalty is because of the proven record of innocent people receiving death sentences. Approximately 4% of people who receive death sentences are actually innocent. We execute many innocent people in this country. The system absolutely does not operate on the principle of "it is better for 1000 guilty to go free than for one innocent to be unjustly punished."

Many oppose the death penalty because they realize just how poor our justice system is at actually determining guilt and innocence. Those who assume it is near-infallible will be much more likely to support the death penalty. So if you screen out those opposed to death sentences, you also screen out people who are more skeptical of the criminal justice system overall.

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[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago

I kind of agree, if I were in the jury, it would make me think twice about finding them guilty since I would feel like I have someone’s death on my hands.

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why does it feel like the trump administration would use Mangione's acquittal by jury as a reason to try to attack and do away with the 6th Amendment (trial by jury amendment)?

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[-] Chozo@fedia.io 19 points 1 year ago

Yep, if you set the bar extraordinarily high, then you have to jump extraordinarily high. Bondi's likely doing more harm than good for her cause.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 50 points 1 year ago

Assuming his trial is carried out normally and isn't a sham

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[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 141 points 1 year ago

The bullets Mangione used to kill Thomson had “deny,” “delay,” and “depose” inscribed on them.

Allegedly. The reporter forgot to be professional for a moment.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago
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[-] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 117 points 1 year ago

I'm glad they're seeking the death penalty.

Because it makes it much easier for the defence team to argue that the prosecution is trying to turn the law into a spectacle, and that Luigi should be acquitted of all charges.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

The federal system gives the judge a lot more power, they can basically pick the jury and evidence themselves, and appeals really, really suck.

[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 77 points 1 year ago
[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Well, we have a convicted felon and rapist as president already.

[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Exactly. They've set a precedent that running for office gets you out of any consequences. I really want to see what happens if Mangione runs for congress

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[-] imetators@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Californians would die of heart attack after eating all of them

[-] whiskeytango@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least then they could afford to have a heart attack. Heck, have two

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[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago
[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

He'd became a martyr. The best chance way the ruling class could handle this is letting him go on the condition that he denies every publicity possible for a given years, even "just" imprisonment would communicate "we fear guys like this".

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 29 points 1 year ago

This guy killed a patrician and now that class has totally seized controlled of government.

[-] Spider2013@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago
[-] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago
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[-] smokingpistol@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

He’s a real true America hero and a patriot! Que Viva Luigi!

[-] Lolseas@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

So what are the odds of jury nullification on this case?

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