Accelerationists aren't exactly deep thinkers who understand entropy.

It reminds me too much of these moments in RTS games, or Sim City, that time you got hit hard and you have to rebuild, but don't have resources to build, but to get more resources you need to build infrastructure. It can take so long to get out of that rut, and that's of you don't get hit by another calamity.

Sometimes I think any policy maker should play a game of old school Sim City 2000 and we can all see how they do before we vote for them.

No spoilers, I know, but have you watched the news recently?

Everyone is so used to consuming news not necessarily as entertainment but as background hum or as ammunition to confirm their ideology or dispel another. This isn't wrong per se, but I think the consequence of constant barrage of war, disaster, tragedy, corporate abuse, political abuse at home and abroad desensitizes people to the possibility that these things can happen to them tomorrow right outside their front door.

They're so used to the idea that theoretically the government has always been able to do whatever it wants to you they don't realize how viscerally real it is that now they can do it without making excuses or cover ups, or under any pretense, and not only will no one do anything but millions will support the regime while you're black bagged without due process. Authoritarian violence in America was always bad, but at least there had to be an excuse, a judicial system set up to defend cops who lie and say they felt threatened. Soon they will be brazen enough to snatch you up without pretense of a crime, without anyone knowing and without needing to explain themselves

They don't realize how viscerally bad it will be for them when war breaks out no matter which side of that war they are on. Accelerationists are fucking clowns and they are not prepared for the world they've been jerking off to.

Very first reaction I had and thankful I wasn't the only one…

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I only see mockery of accelerationists, which I broadly support. Its 10 times easier to reform an existing government that to destroy and build a good one from scratch.

Such things are possible without the collapse of society.

This is one of the basic reasons why Political Compass Memes is such a bad idea.

No kidding. Not only do people fall on different parts of that two dimensional map depending on context (e.g. different positions on how much government support there should be for the arts versus for the sciences, how much government should regulate guns versus automobiles, etc.), but elevating these two axes above all the other unseen dimensions (ideological purity versus pragmatic compromise or versus consensus seeking, at what point process should yield to substance, the extent to which our institutions should have inertia that resists change, etc.), which causes people to oversimplify political issues into just those two dimensions.

There are many dimensions, and each problem may call for a different solution that would fall into a different place in any given dimension than the solution to another problem.

If you want society to collapse then yes you are a smooth brain.

Things can always be worse. And they wont only get worse for you, so if you are ok dragging everyone down into hell with you, you aren't just dumb, you are evil.

Agreed but the problem with this is that it requires people to be ok with the idea that they are building something that they likely won't see. It's a difficult concept for most people to grapple with.

All would say the same thing there. Look at the auth right we have today and the rhetoric of 'the decadent decay of society and the need to rebuild traditional structures...'

I think there are plenty of people of all political ideologies who don’t fall into this intellectual trap. But I took this as criticism of a very real breed of political slacktivist who thinks that their preferred society is so natural or inevitable that it will just happen automatically whenever the current rulers fuck up badly enough.

But this is just fairy tale thinking. New societal structures are built from the bottom up and only replace the existing ones when a state of incredible weakness for one structure coexists with a state of strength for the new structure.

So I kind of agree but there are definitely lib-left people who engage in this type of thinking. It seems like insurrectionary anarchists largely fit in that category, but someone who knows more about their ideology can correct me if I got it wrong.