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[–] Melodic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) Whats pcm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (2 children) Political Compass Memes, it was a subreddit that sucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Which is unfortunate, because using 2 dimensions to describe political ideology is much more informative than using just one (left VS right). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Corn@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. Meanwhile a primitive anarchist commune with so little development of the means of production, a person's only options are to fill a very specific role in society or starve becomes free again. The term "authoritarian" is not useful for describing how much agency people in a society have over their own lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. I've never heard anyone argue that before, and it's not shown on the compass itself. Do you have any evidence to back that up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Vast government structures that encompass the lives of hundreds of millions of people can't be put on a single page. We shouldn't focus on political identity. We should focus on what works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Are you saying it's better to use one dimension to describe political ideology than 2 dimensions? Because that's all I'm comparing. I'm not saying the political compass is perfect, I'm saying it's better than "left VS right." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I'm saying human systems and the ideas surrounding them can't be quantified by a single graph. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say they could be. But graphs can be helpful in understanding certain aspects of those systems/ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I suppose my nitpick is that it simplifies things so much that it obfuscates what we're actually discussing a lot of the time. It becomes an argument of this vs that instead of what do we have to do to achieve common shared goals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) There was a short time it wasn't, and it was pretty hilarious ngl, but you have to have that kind of humor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I hadn't seen this specific story, it's very accurate from what I've seen over the years. 4chan, basically any online game chat room, blizzard in particular holy shit, I remember playing SC1 and WC3 online and for the most part everyone was normal, go to any Blizz game public chat now and it's full of trump/nazi spammers. Crazy. Something I've been thinking about since watching the comedian part of the Trumps rally right before he got elected the 2nd time.... The jokes made me laugh, but not in a "haha he's so right! Puerto Ricans are trash!" it was in a "wow! anyone who believes that is such an idiot!" similarly I very much enjoy edgy humor like Southpark or a smaller project like DBZ Abridged, TO ME the joke is in the ridiculousness that anyone would say/act/behave that way, but it absolutely invites in the people who unironically agree with it. It's unfortunate to say the least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's crazy what a great example 4chan is of this. Used to be 99 dudes laughing and playing along with some weird idiot and then suddenly it's 99 weird idiots. Really what turned me to sanitization of spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Or maybe you realized they were never joking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The problem with censorship then becomes who is the arbiter of truth, the same old issue with basically any organization wherein it requires some kind of leadership and therefore is possible to be corrupted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melodic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Thanks. And while we’re at it: what’s wojak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago The drawn white dude. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojak permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (2 children) Political Compass Memes, it was a subreddit that sucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Which is unfortunate, because using 2 dimensions to describe political ideology is much more informative than using just one (left VS right). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Corn@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. Meanwhile a primitive anarchist commune with so little development of the means of production, a person's only options are to fill a very specific role in society or starve becomes free again. The term "authoritarian" is not useful for describing how much agency people in a society have over their own lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. I've never heard anyone argue that before, and it's not shown on the compass itself. Do you have any evidence to back that up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Vast government structures that encompass the lives of hundreds of millions of people can't be put on a single page. We shouldn't focus on political identity. We should focus on what works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Are you saying it's better to use one dimension to describe political ideology than 2 dimensions? Because that's all I'm comparing. I'm not saying the political compass is perfect, I'm saying it's better than "left VS right." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I'm saying human systems and the ideas surrounding them can't be quantified by a single graph. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say they could be. But graphs can be helpful in understanding certain aspects of those systems/ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I suppose my nitpick is that it simplifies things so much that it obfuscates what we're actually discussing a lot of the time. It becomes an argument of this vs that instead of what do we have to do to achieve common shared goals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) There was a short time it wasn't, and it was pretty hilarious ngl, but you have to have that kind of humor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I hadn't seen this specific story, it's very accurate from what I've seen over the years. 4chan, basically any online game chat room, blizzard in particular holy shit, I remember playing SC1 and WC3 online and for the most part everyone was normal, go to any Blizz game public chat now and it's full of trump/nazi spammers. Crazy. Something I've been thinking about since watching the comedian part of the Trumps rally right before he got elected the 2nd time.... The jokes made me laugh, but not in a "haha he's so right! Puerto Ricans are trash!" it was in a "wow! anyone who believes that is such an idiot!" similarly I very much enjoy edgy humor like Southpark or a smaller project like DBZ Abridged, TO ME the joke is in the ridiculousness that anyone would say/act/behave that way, but it absolutely invites in the people who unironically agree with it. It's unfortunate to say the least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's crazy what a great example 4chan is of this. Used to be 99 dudes laughing and playing along with some weird idiot and then suddenly it's 99 weird idiots. Really what turned me to sanitization of spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Or maybe you realized they were never joking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The problem with censorship then becomes who is the arbiter of truth, the same old issue with basically any organization wherein it requires some kind of leadership and therefore is possible to be corrupted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melodic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Thanks. And while we’re at it: what’s wojak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago The drawn white dude. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojak permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Which is unfortunate, because using 2 dimensions to describe political ideology is much more informative than using just one (left VS right). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Corn@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. Meanwhile a primitive anarchist commune with so little development of the means of production, a person's only options are to fill a very specific role in society or starve becomes free again. The term "authoritarian" is not useful for describing how much agency people in a society have over their own lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. I've never heard anyone argue that before, and it's not shown on the compass itself. Do you have any evidence to back that up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Vast government structures that encompass the lives of hundreds of millions of people can't be put on a single page. We shouldn't focus on political identity. We should focus on what works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Are you saying it's better to use one dimension to describe political ideology than 2 dimensions? Because that's all I'm comparing. I'm not saying the political compass is perfect, I'm saying it's better than "left VS right." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I'm saying human systems and the ideas surrounding them can't be quantified by a single graph. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say they could be. But graphs can be helpful in understanding certain aspects of those systems/ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I suppose my nitpick is that it simplifies things so much that it obfuscates what we're actually discussing a lot of the time. It becomes an argument of this vs that instead of what do we have to do to achieve common shared goals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) There was a short time it wasn't, and it was pretty hilarious ngl, but you have to have that kind of humor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I hadn't seen this specific story, it's very accurate from what I've seen over the years. 4chan, basically any online game chat room, blizzard in particular holy shit, I remember playing SC1 and WC3 online and for the most part everyone was normal, go to any Blizz game public chat now and it's full of trump/nazi spammers. Crazy. Something I've been thinking about since watching the comedian part of the Trumps rally right before he got elected the 2nd time.... The jokes made me laugh, but not in a "haha he's so right! Puerto Ricans are trash!" it was in a "wow! anyone who believes that is such an idiot!" similarly I very much enjoy edgy humor like Southpark or a smaller project like DBZ Abridged, TO ME the joke is in the ridiculousness that anyone would say/act/behave that way, but it absolutely invites in the people who unironically agree with it. It's unfortunate to say the least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's crazy what a great example 4chan is of this. Used to be 99 dudes laughing and playing along with some weird idiot and then suddenly it's 99 weird idiots. Really what turned me to sanitization of spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Or maybe you realized they were never joking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The problem with censorship then becomes who is the arbiter of truth, the same old issue with basically any organization wherein it requires some kind of leadership and therefore is possible to be corrupted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Which is unfortunate, because using 2 dimensions to describe political ideology is much more informative than using just one (left VS right). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Corn@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. Meanwhile a primitive anarchist commune with so little development of the means of production, a person's only options are to fill a very specific role in society or starve becomes free again. The term "authoritarian" is not useful for describing how much agency people in a society have over their own lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. I've never heard anyone argue that before, and it's not shown on the compass itself. Do you have any evidence to back that up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Vast government structures that encompass the lives of hundreds of millions of people can't be put on a single page. We shouldn't focus on political identity. We should focus on what works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Are you saying it's better to use one dimension to describe political ideology than 2 dimensions? Because that's all I'm comparing. I'm not saying the political compass is perfect, I'm saying it's better than "left VS right." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I'm saying human systems and the ideas surrounding them can't be quantified by a single graph. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say they could be. But graphs can be helpful in understanding certain aspects of those systems/ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I suppose my nitpick is that it simplifies things so much that it obfuscates what we're actually discussing a lot of the time. It becomes an argument of this vs that instead of what do we have to do to achieve common shared goals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. Meanwhile a primitive anarchist commune with so little development of the means of production, a person's only options are to fill a very specific role in society or starve becomes free again. The term "authoritarian" is not useful for describing how much agency people in a society have over their own lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. I've never heard anyone argue that before, and it's not shown on the compass itself. Do you have any evidence to back that up? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less "authoritarian" than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don't get the power to exploit people. I've never heard anyone argue that before, and it's not shown on the compass itself. Do you have any evidence to back that up? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Vast government structures that encompass the lives of hundreds of millions of people can't be put on a single page. We shouldn't focus on political identity. We should focus on what works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Are you saying it's better to use one dimension to describe political ideology than 2 dimensions? Because that's all I'm comparing. I'm not saying the political compass is perfect, I'm saying it's better than "left VS right." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I'm saying human systems and the ideas surrounding them can't be quantified by a single graph. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say they could be. But graphs can be helpful in understanding certain aspects of those systems/ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I suppose my nitpick is that it simplifies things so much that it obfuscates what we're actually discussing a lot of the time. It becomes an argument of this vs that instead of what do we have to do to achieve common shared goals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Are you saying it's better to use one dimension to describe political ideology than 2 dimensions? Because that's all I'm comparing. I'm not saying the political compass is perfect, I'm saying it's better than "left VS right." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I'm saying human systems and the ideas surrounding them can't be quantified by a single graph. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say they could be. But graphs can be helpful in understanding certain aspects of those systems/ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I suppose my nitpick is that it simplifies things so much that it obfuscates what we're actually discussing a lot of the time. It becomes an argument of this vs that instead of what do we have to do to achieve common shared goals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I'm saying human systems and the ideas surrounding them can't be quantified by a single graph. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say they could be. But graphs can be helpful in understanding certain aspects of those systems/ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I suppose my nitpick is that it simplifies things so much that it obfuscates what we're actually discussing a lot of the time. It becomes an argument of this vs that instead of what do we have to do to achieve common shared goals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say they could be. But graphs can be helpful in understanding certain aspects of those systems/ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I suppose my nitpick is that it simplifies things so much that it obfuscates what we're actually discussing a lot of the time. It becomes an argument of this vs that instead of what do we have to do to achieve common shared goals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I suppose my nitpick is that it simplifies things so much that it obfuscates what we're actually discussing a lot of the time. It becomes an argument of this vs that instead of what do we have to do to achieve common shared goals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) There was a short time it wasn't, and it was pretty hilarious ngl, but you have to have that kind of humor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I hadn't seen this specific story, it's very accurate from what I've seen over the years. 4chan, basically any online game chat room, blizzard in particular holy shit, I remember playing SC1 and WC3 online and for the most part everyone was normal, go to any Blizz game public chat now and it's full of trump/nazi spammers. Crazy. Something I've been thinking about since watching the comedian part of the Trumps rally right before he got elected the 2nd time.... The jokes made me laugh, but not in a "haha he's so right! Puerto Ricans are trash!" it was in a "wow! anyone who believes that is such an idiot!" similarly I very much enjoy edgy humor like Southpark or a smaller project like DBZ Abridged, TO ME the joke is in the ridiculousness that anyone would say/act/behave that way, but it absolutely invites in the people who unironically agree with it. It's unfortunate to say the least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's crazy what a great example 4chan is of this. Used to be 99 dudes laughing and playing along with some weird idiot and then suddenly it's 99 weird idiots. Really what turned me to sanitization of spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Or maybe you realized they were never joking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The problem with censorship then becomes who is the arbiter of truth, the same old issue with basically any organization wherein it requires some kind of leadership and therefore is possible to be corrupted. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I hadn't seen this specific story, it's very accurate from what I've seen over the years. 4chan, basically any online game chat room, blizzard in particular holy shit, I remember playing SC1 and WC3 online and for the most part everyone was normal, go to any Blizz game public chat now and it's full of trump/nazi spammers. Crazy. Something I've been thinking about since watching the comedian part of the Trumps rally right before he got elected the 2nd time.... The jokes made me laugh, but not in a "haha he's so right! Puerto Ricans are trash!" it was in a "wow! anyone who believes that is such an idiot!" similarly I very much enjoy edgy humor like Southpark or a smaller project like DBZ Abridged, TO ME the joke is in the ridiculousness that anyone would say/act/behave that way, but it absolutely invites in the people who unironically agree with it. It's unfortunate to say the least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's crazy what a great example 4chan is of this. Used to be 99 dudes laughing and playing along with some weird idiot and then suddenly it's 99 weird idiots. Really what turned me to sanitization of spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Or maybe you realized they were never joking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The problem with censorship then becomes who is the arbiter of truth, the same old issue with basically any organization wherein it requires some kind of leadership and therefore is possible to be corrupted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I hadn't seen this specific story, it's very accurate from what I've seen over the years. 4chan, basically any online game chat room, blizzard in particular holy shit, I remember playing SC1 and WC3 online and for the most part everyone was normal, go to any Blizz game public chat now and it's full of trump/nazi spammers. Crazy. Something I've been thinking about since watching the comedian part of the Trumps rally right before he got elected the 2nd time.... The jokes made me laugh, but not in a "haha he's so right! Puerto Ricans are trash!" it was in a "wow! anyone who believes that is such an idiot!" similarly I very much enjoy edgy humor like Southpark or a smaller project like DBZ Abridged, TO ME the joke is in the ridiculousness that anyone would say/act/behave that way, but it absolutely invites in the people who unironically agree with it. It's unfortunate to say the least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's crazy what a great example 4chan is of this. Used to be 99 dudes laughing and playing along with some weird idiot and then suddenly it's 99 weird idiots. Really what turned me to sanitization of spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Or maybe you realized they were never joking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The problem with censorship then becomes who is the arbiter of truth, the same old issue with basically any organization wherein it requires some kind of leadership and therefore is possible to be corrupted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's crazy what a great example 4chan is of this. Used to be 99 dudes laughing and playing along with some weird idiot and then suddenly it's 99 weird idiots. Really what turned me to sanitization of spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Or maybe you realized they were never joking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The problem with censorship then becomes who is the arbiter of truth, the same old issue with basically any organization wherein it requires some kind of leadership and therefore is possible to be corrupted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Or maybe you realized they were never joking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The problem with censorship then becomes who is the arbiter of truth, the same old issue with basically any organization wherein it requires some kind of leadership and therefore is possible to be corrupted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Melodic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Thanks. And while we’re at it: what’s wojak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago The drawn white dude. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojak permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago The drawn white dude. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojak permalink fedilink source parent
