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$500 for a console is one thing, but $80 for games when I just use Nintendo for Pokemon games? And Pokemon has honestly lost me. I even stopped giving a shit about my online storage box with shinies from 2010.
$500 for a console is one thing
also $500 for a console which requires a PHD and graphs and spreadsheets to prove has a better GPU than any $600+ phone?
TCG Pocket is fun and free if you haven't given it a shot!
It does sound good, but I'm not sure I got the time in my life for the TCG. It does sound great, though.
I agree for the most part, getting a cracked copy of a nintendo game still benefits nintendo (piracy has always benefited large publishers). Nintendo can easily create a tug of war situation with the emulator scene where firmware updates and game DRM will be a constant fixture.
Switch 1 emulation was achieved because we got extremely lucky that the switch 1 had a hardware defect on launch day that allowed for jailbreaking. Usually jailbreaking a console is very difficult and requires a mixture of luck and extremely knowledgeable individuals willing to pour hundreds of hours and now that Nintendo has sent its copyright ninjas to copyright safe havens like Brazil I doubt that there's any motivation to start cracking a new console anytime soon.
Emulation projects are not free labor so you can crack the latest nintendo nostalgia slop.
Here's hoping for an early defect on switch 2
I dunno, i personally don't care about playing games the first day, haven't in a very long time. 5 or more years is actually fine, there's still a ton from their cracked consoles i haven't played. If i wait long enough and the games are good enough i figger ill get to play the games eventually and if i don't, i truly don't care. I play games on my terms or i don't play em, that's my meta
I waited until last year to finally get a moddable switch. I'm personally fine with waiting a few years for a mod solution to appear. They want people to buy their drm box on hype and it's rarely worth it until much later, anyways.
IIRC the only reason a switch emulator appeared so soon after launch was because the creator of the Citra 3DS emulator decided to go for it. Now that nintendo has sent goons to the houses of all emulator devs there's not as much institutional knowledge nor will for devs to stick their neck out as there was in 2017
lol I'm not paying $90 for Mario Kart 9 when it's literally just Mario Kart 8 + voice chat + some random gimmick
This looks like the most different Mario Kart has ever been. Not worth 90 bucks, but pretty darn different from 8 (oddly though, not as good looking)
On one hand they do seem to be taking extra DRM steps this time with the cartridges only containing a download key.
On the other hand Nintendo also tend to make really trivial mistakes that blow their consoles wide open so my money is on some remote code execution via the stupid webcam accessory.
Still not as bad as Sony and 3 generations of browser exploits in a row. Or tony hawks games
it'll be a browser exploit. Either they'll ship a full browser as an app or an embedded one for signing into public WiFi. Either way, it'll be the first point of entry while other reverse engineering shit gets figured out. Might not give access to encryption keys or enable homebrew but these devices are always broken eventually.
"the browser is a sandbox" the people exclaim as they get used for remote code execution over and over again
Everything will be cracked eventually plus the last three generations of Nintendo consoles have had glaring security flaws.
Switch form factor was unique when it came out now with Steam Deck and its numerous clones do Nintendo have the same bargaining power with Switch 2? You can't play overpriced AA nintendo games on them but they are full fleged computers that make consoles look like milking contraptions.
Of course there is also the prevailing phenomenon of gamers shelling out regardless of the asking price. So logic goes out of the window.
Nintendo’s main market is parents who want a safe console for their kids with good parental controls. It’s still the cheapest (though not really “cheap” anymore…) and they really don’t give a fuck about Steam or know what it is.
Gamers act all incredulous that it’s not made for them - yeah no shit.
A lot more parents now know what Steam is. Is almost 25 years old, and has been popular for 10+ years.
That means 10 year old kids with 35-40 year old parents have parents that were in their teens and 20s when Steam got popular.
yeah i don't understand why so many people make this sort of assumption. i literally use my dad's steam account and have since i was 7 years old. a pretty substantial portion of g*mers are 40+, its not some edgelord youth thing anymore.
and maybe i'm just poor, but nintendo stuff hasn't been a cute little thing you throw at your kid to keep them distracted since the GBA. now their consoles cost a month's rent and no one can spare that right now.
For 6-10 year old kids Nintendo is still considered the "safe" company, but they ungated the shop so it's kinda moot other than parental controls (which everything else has too).
The Switch is less the kid console now and more a Mario Kart/Smash machine
I don't know about this. A higher priced system seems more aimed at enthusiasts than parents who can find cheaper ways to occupy their young (including older consoles and/or cellies and tablets). The expanded online chat options similarly aren't something that is selling systems to parents who don't have the time to vet every online stranger.
Nintendo sells a lot of games on nostalgia, which kids don't have much of to exploit.
I think Nintendo is still trying to sell to families, which includes millenial moms and dads who grew up on games and may have identified as "hardcore" back when they had the time
I’m not sure if Nintendo would make billions from enthusiasts and nostalgic parents. Kids today still know Super Mario and Yoshi very well
(I think they’re gonna leave Luigi out of the next smash though lol)
I'm just saying that sort of pricing is beyond "kid's toy." It's a lot to ask a parent to spend
Yeah but video games have always been a big ask.
$171 (in 2025 money) for a SNES game in 1991.
$467.25 (in 2025 money) for the SNES console; although that included a game.
It just seems fucked because they got cheap for a while. Really the problem is inflation - what I do agree on is that Nintendo is gonna see a slowdown if they can’t offer some relief.
yeah... emulators lag behind the consoles for many years.. reversing tends to be a lot of painstaking work.. and for people who will just turn around and whine about something not working or looking perfectly
Its not just the DRM, I imagine the architecture of switch2 is pretty similar to the original, with this being a spec bump and some new joycons. I'd be surprised if Yuzu wouldn't have been able to play these games inside 6 months. That's why they made moves to shut them down
In order to justify a $500 console they'll have to give it more than just Youtube and Hulu+ for entertainment apps this time around - If not they're shooting themselves in the foot.
Even then they'll have to implement Webkit just for Wifi sign in pages, so someone will eventually find a way to exploit some browser engine bug into full blown arbitrary code execution. I give it a year before PoC game cracks and basic emulation and 2 before commercial launch games are at least playable on high end systems.
this post was submitted on 03 Apr 2025
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