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This is awesome! Bookmarked
SearXNG also shows lemmy results in the social tab.
Try kagi search! It actually has a “lense” or search option that lets you directly search federated services like lemmy: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/lenses.html
How do you "try" Kagi without subscribing or creating an account? Is that possible?
I think you get a hundred free searches, then it's about 13 EUR per month for unlimited searches. I'd recommend Startpage, it's free and European.
Whoa, that's expensive for me. That's half of my internet bill just for a search engine. Lol
a lot of lemmy instances block google indexing purposefully. you would need to search using the instance search capabilities.
Kagi or some other search engine has a “search the fediverse” option now I think. Pretty sure I saw a post a few days ago
One day I will be able to afford a subscription based search engine..
kagi’s like $5/mo right? I get everyone has different ideas of what’s expensive, but if you really value it that does not seem like a very steep cost. Especially compared to your privacy/data. There’s nothing that cost $5/mo or more you could cut for this?
I wish I could.. Gladly this isn't the one and only way to protect ones data & privacy. And about 10 searches per day for 5$+ taxes is not going to be enough searches for me. The most convincing point is proper search results in my opinion. But again, 10$ +taxes for a search engine is not a recurring cost I will add to the bunch.
Oh damn I didn’t realize how limited the $5 plan was. Fair enough
Has had it for a while now, yeah.
Yep, it's a subscription i'm happy to pay for
a lot of lemmy instances block google indexing purposefully
Hopefully I'm not opening a can of worms by asking this, but, why?
To be more precise, why not let any search engine index? It seems like it'll grow Lemmy if people can use its data to search through.
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That seems rather counterproductive imo. The only way to get useful results on any search engine is to input "reddit" at the end of your search ime. So it seems like it's limiting the discovery and knowledge base of things here by not allowing for the same thing for Lemmy. Idk how to word that correctly.
Seems like the correct way for them to index the site would be to create their own instance that federates with the rest and then index the content on the server. There is no need to scan each individual instance when there is a publishing protocol that handles the content stream.
More so the only way to get results that aren't ad-filled webpages that are paid to be top Google results is to search for reddit posts. Unfortunately a lot of the newer reddit stuff seems to be regurgitated bot accounts reposting stuff, so most useful stuff on Reddit is from before the enshittification.
I still have to put site:reddit.com at the end of my search in order to get technical answers for certain questions answered in an easily understandable way.
Add this at the end of your search query to omit results from Reddit:
-site:https://www.reddit.com/
To specifically include results from Lemmy, you can just add a plus sign and replace the site name:
+site:https://lemmy.world/
Believe it or not Lemmy.world is not the only instance.
Yeah I'm new to Lemmy and still getting used to the whole instance thing. Apparently you can use "related:" to include results that are similar. In the below example, I did a Google search for "ukraine related:lemmy -site:reddit.com".
I'm guessing that search would turn up results for any instance LW is federated with? If not that would be disappointing!
Just as a FYI:
You don’t need the + to include things on Google. Anything you type that isn’t prefaced with a minus symbol already means “include this”. Also, using quotes means you want an exact match.
Additionally, you could shorten to this:
Search keywords here -site:Reddit.com site:lemmy.world “exact match keywords, if you want”
And just for funsies—you can use related: as an operator to find sites that are similar to something.
You don’t need the + to include things on Google.
Yeah I don't know why I added that. Kinda dumb on my part.
And just for funsies—you can use related: as an operator to find sites that are similar to something.
I think this is what OP was really looking for. I did a Google search for "ukraine related:lemmy -site:reddit.com" and got this, which seems to be the kind of results OP is looking for:
Fantastic!
Also, love the user name. 😉
Thanks. It's an homage to my banned Reddit account.
Maybe not helpful, but Kagi search includes an option to search forums, which includes Lemmy. They have or had a dedicated Lemmy search, but I don't see it on my end right now.
Why are yall paying for search
Better than the search paying to use you.
It's still there for me, called Fediverse Forums. It's a lens you can disable or reorder so maybe you did and forgot about it? It's also different to Forums lens which doesn't seem to include Fediverse for some reason.
This is definitely helpful. I hadn't noticed it. Kagi keeps on giving. Thank you!
You can add "site:[whatever.tld]" to a Google search to restrict results to the specified domain. But as mentioned elsewhere many instances block indexing.
Conversely, you can add -site:Reddit.com
and exclude Reddit results altogether.
That way you can search one instance but not the fediverse
Why not just open your Lemmy app of choice and click search?
Reddit has a decade long corpus of valuable knowledge from millions of individuals... Lemmy just doesn't have that scale or earned trust yet.
I currently don't do that (can not replace the treasure trove in reddit yet) but you can edit default search engine url and add something like
site:lemmy.world/ site:lemmy.ml/ site:lemm.ee/ site:sh.itjust.works/ site:lemmy.dbzer0.com/ site:lemmy.ca/ site:programming.dev/ site:lemmy.blahaj.zone/ site:discuss.tchncs.de/ site:spouli.xyz/
and make a seperate search engine shortcut for this. But as others have said, google is not great for this.
If you use searxng, then you can also include instance searches in default results . There is a seperate social media page(just like you have image or video tab), enable lemmy and mastodon stuff and use that.
Don't use Google, use Startpage.com instead, and add "lemmy" to your search terms.