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[–] 384 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Mangione, 26, appeared in court wearing a green cable knit sweater over a white shirt. He was brought into the courtroom in leg and arm shackles and wearing a bulletproof vest.

Theater to make him look like a villain that people want to shoot at.

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  • [–] 218 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Lol they said that and my first thought was, "what, is there a risk of some billionaire CEO bursting into the courtroom to exact revenge?"

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    absolutely not. The federal charges have the death penalty attached.

    Remember, the rich fucks need this to end. They certainly don't want us getting ideas. And the fastest way to do that would be to have him wind up dead before they can drag his name through the mud in a show trial. that would turn him into a martyr.

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Does the court decide that he has to wear the vest, or was that a decision by his team? I know the shackles are typically requested by the court, but my understanding is that the rest of a defendant's wardrobe is their own decision.

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    [+] [S] 241 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 162 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sounds to me like law enforcement know they fucked up the arrest and search, that evidence won't be admissible in court, so they're trying to make it public instead to prejudice not only the public but the jury pool.

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  • [–] 138 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Whoa, I've heard some overblown jury pool bias arguments but appearing in a documentary and sharing evidence that hasn't even been shared in discovery sounds pretty unacceptable. If the documentary people were able to read/view/discuss this evidence, what was the delay in getting it to the defense attorneys?

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Wait, isn't this pretty similar to how the very-obvious rapist Bill Cosby ultimately got off? That strategy... that actually might work, even without jury nullification.

    Also I just gotta say... NYC Mayor and "hair and makeup" in the same sentence made me laugh. I know that's a technical term but, c'mon.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not quite. The prosecution fucked that up by offering him immunity in exchange for testimony. Under that agreement, Cosby never should have even seen the inside of a jail cell. They absolutely should have not made that deal, but the integrity of the justice system (if such a concept exists) demanded that Cosby be released.

    If they can somehow prove that the arrest or search was illegal, that's a huge deal and will get a ton of evidence tossed or even the whole trial nullified.

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  • [–] 182 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Seems like the cops planted all that evidence, not guilty

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  • [–] 137 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Even if they didn't plant it. If they fucked up the arrest and search, the evidence may not be admissible in court at all.

    That would explain why they want to get anything related to it out in public any other way they can, like interviews and pseudo-documentary bullshit before even providing related materials to the defense team.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    I mean, plenty of people were saying that right when he was first arrested. The dude was able to evade capture for an entire week while the entire country was on the lookout for him… He even had time to leave memeable fake breadcrumbs, like his backpack full of Monopoly money… And yet he never thought to break apart the ghost gun he used, and dispose of it in random trash cans so they’d be virtually impossible to trace back to him? He had a goddamned manifesto on him, like it was a signed confession?

    Yeah, no. His arrest smells like “accidentally” disabled body cams and planted evidence.

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  • [–] 161 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Not only was he illegally searched, but McDonald's is likely engaging in illegal facial recognition based surveillance, possibly in collusion with the federal government.

    No way a random McDonald's worker could randomly point out that Mangione looks like the suspect, of which we had very few photos.

    Not to mention the solitary confinement, although unfortunately, I'm not sure that's illegal, even given the 8th amendment.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Solitary confinement is absolutely unconstitutional, but good luck convincing someone that it's cruel and unusual if they've never been subject to it

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Also, courts have repeatedly ruled that a punishment has to be both cruel and unusual to be unconstitutional. Which means that if the government just treats everyone like trash, it’s cruel but not unusual. Because the government is what decides what is unusual simply by adjusting how often it is used. If something is unusual and they want to change that, they just do it more so it’s considered usual.

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  • [–] 62 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Why does he need a vest? This is the first thing both the left and right have agreed on in a long time.

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The vest is bullet and stab resistant, they make violent offenders wear them in case somebody wants to hurt them.

    Funny, because nobody wants to kill him. He is more likely to get a pat on the back than a bullet to the back.

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    [–] 48 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Fruit of the poison tree, if they can prove it.

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I feel like his trial is just gonna be a flex from the bourgeoisie in this class war. I love the man. I understand his struggles. But he's about to be "made an example" and I feel bad for him.

    Make no mistake. This is not Republicans/Conservatives vs. Liberals/Democrats/Leftist. That's why Luigi was so dangerous to them. What is happening is class war. And unfortunately most of the proletariat are completely unaware of what side they are even on.

    Liberals and Conservatives voters alike actually think they're on different sides. Meanwhile the capitalist class is just picking this system for scraps. They want this trial to go under the rug. Because it's actually the only thing all working class people agree on. It's a uniting issue that could spark a flame. And you can tell how worried they are based on media coverage. They are doing everything to make "a show" of it. From the perp walk to putting him in chains in court. It's a flex and a narrative. But I honestly think it's too transparent. I don't think they see that.

    Remember, there are so many more of us then there are of them. Our numbers are all they fear. There is no chance for failure when it's 99% vs. 1%. Technology don't matter. Security don't matter. Their executive orders don't matter. Numbers matter. And they are absolutely afraid of those numbers.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I kinda hope Luigi being declared guilty cause a George floyd-esque public response.

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  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    A judge could give the same sentence as Trump: nothing, because he has important work to do and can't be bogged down by things like prison, probation, or fines. There's precedent now.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yep, I guess he just needs to run for President and then killing healthcare CEOs is an official act and legal, according to the Supreme Court.

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