▲ 1050 ▼ Luigi Mangione illegally searched during arrest in health insurance CEO killing, lawyer says (www.reuters.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/news@lemmy.world 108 comments fedilink hide all child comments http://luigimangioneinfo.com/
[+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 241 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 162 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds to me like law enforcement know they fucked up the arrest and search, that evidence won't be admissible in court, so they're trying to make it public instead to prejudice not only the public but the jury pool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 88 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Half of America would be partying in the streets if it's found he was illegally searched and all that fruit of the poison tree ends up in the garbage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really need a new word for it. Hate isn't right, detest is too little, loath feels dormant... I need a word to describe the roiling plasma of rage that rests in my heart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago Revolutionary fervor? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago* When anger and disgust combine, you get contempt. And while the word doesn’t sound super impactful, contempt is one of the strongest emotions, and one that is often deeply rooted in your sense of identity. Because if you hold genuine contempt for something, it’s usually because it flies in the face of your core personal values. It’s an emotion that makes it difficult to even function properly when you’re near the target of your contempt; It’s the kind of emotion that drives people to violence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Despise? Disgusted by? Hmmm..... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragallos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago Infuriated? Disgusted to the point of destruction? I mirror your sentiment, I can't help but be so incredibly angry all the time, it's really hard to focus or direct that energy anymore. Also love a cthulhu mythos reference, nice name. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago I agree with more than half. Probably. And I’m not going to be pedantic and pretend like “everyone” means literally 100% of the population. But “everyone” is still a strong word, and we have SO many people who have been conditioned their entire lives to equate material wealth with admirable people and lives well lived. They might be jealous of the rich, but it’s the same way they might be jealous of a professional athlete or a rock star. It’s not “fuck that guy,” it’s “I want to be that guy.” permalink fedilink source parent [+] moakley@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Regardless of their feelings on the rich, I think you'll find that most people aren't ok with the murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless ofc the one being murdered is a murderer themselves ... and many Americans who've dealt with privalized health care can attest to that being true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I fully appreciate what you're saying, and I'm not even saying I disagree. But most people still won't support it. There have been polls. He has a lot of support, but it's definitely not more than half. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Half is still somewhere around 170 million Americans. I mean no political party in recent history has come close to having that kind of support. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Red Hood Has A Point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, this isn't my headcanon (idk if comics have corroborated this): Batman doesn't kill because he realizes he's mentally a mess. He's unstable and, if he lets himself kill, he'd go normal Gotham-insane but with a "justice" kick. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 138 points 2 years ago (2 children) Whoa, I've heard some overblown jury pool bias arguments but appearing in a documentary and sharing evidence that hasn't even been shared in discovery sounds pretty unacceptable. If the documentary people were able to read/view/discuss this evidence, what was the delay in getting it to the defense attorneys? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 126 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Seeing as how people who are in favor of jury nullification in this case are vastly more likely to watch such a documentary, if they then exclude any9ne who has seen it, this is a great way to decrease the odds he goes free. permalink fedilink source parent [–] taiyang@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wait, isn't this pretty similar to how the very-obvious rapist Bill Cosby ultimately got off? That strategy... that actually might work, even without jury nullification. Also I just gotta say... NYC Mayor and "hair and makeup" in the same sentence made me laugh. I know that's a technical term but, c'mon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not quite. The prosecution fucked that up by offering him immunity in exchange for testimony. Under that agreement, Cosby never should have even seen the inside of a jail cell. They absolutely should have not made that deal, but the integrity of the justice system (if such a concept exists) demanded that Cosby be released. If they can somehow prove that the arrest or search was illegal, that's a huge deal and will get a ton of evidence tossed or even the whole trial nullified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago If they can somehow prove that the arrest or search was illegal, that’s a huge deal and will get a ton of evidence tossed or even the whole trial nullified. I can nearly guarantee you that one of the courts, whether the current court or a later appellant court, will weasel their way to saying that the evidence being used would have been found anyway (the second exception), and thus won't get thrown out even if they admit to the search being illegal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] soundimus@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* Skip the first 1:50:00 of the video unless you like staring at doors and cops. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 162 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds to me like law enforcement know they fucked up the arrest and search, that evidence won't be admissible in court, so they're trying to make it public instead to prejudice not only the public but the jury pool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 88 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Half of America would be partying in the streets if it's found he was illegally searched and all that fruit of the poison tree ends up in the garbage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really need a new word for it. Hate isn't right, detest is too little, loath feels dormant... I need a word to describe the roiling plasma of rage that rests in my heart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago Revolutionary fervor? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago* When anger and disgust combine, you get contempt. And while the word doesn’t sound super impactful, contempt is one of the strongest emotions, and one that is often deeply rooted in your sense of identity. Because if you hold genuine contempt for something, it’s usually because it flies in the face of your core personal values. It’s an emotion that makes it difficult to even function properly when you’re near the target of your contempt; It’s the kind of emotion that drives people to violence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Despise? Disgusted by? Hmmm..... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragallos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago Infuriated? Disgusted to the point of destruction? I mirror your sentiment, I can't help but be so incredibly angry all the time, it's really hard to focus or direct that energy anymore. Also love a cthulhu mythos reference, nice name. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago I agree with more than half. Probably. And I’m not going to be pedantic and pretend like “everyone” means literally 100% of the population. But “everyone” is still a strong word, and we have SO many people who have been conditioned their entire lives to equate material wealth with admirable people and lives well lived. They might be jealous of the rich, but it’s the same way they might be jealous of a professional athlete or a rock star. It’s not “fuck that guy,” it’s “I want to be that guy.” permalink fedilink source parent [+] moakley@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Regardless of their feelings on the rich, I think you'll find that most people aren't ok with the murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless ofc the one being murdered is a murderer themselves ... and many Americans who've dealt with privalized health care can attest to that being true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I fully appreciate what you're saying, and I'm not even saying I disagree. But most people still won't support it. There have been polls. He has a lot of support, but it's definitely not more than half. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Half is still somewhere around 170 million Americans. I mean no political party in recent history has come close to having that kind of support. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Red Hood Has A Point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, this isn't my headcanon (idk if comics have corroborated this): Batman doesn't kill because he realizes he's mentally a mess. He's unstable and, if he lets himself kill, he'd go normal Gotham-insane but with a "justice" kick. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 88 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Half of America would be partying in the streets if it's found he was illegally searched and all that fruit of the poison tree ends up in the garbage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really need a new word for it. Hate isn't right, detest is too little, loath feels dormant... I need a word to describe the roiling plasma of rage that rests in my heart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago Revolutionary fervor? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago* When anger and disgust combine, you get contempt. And while the word doesn’t sound super impactful, contempt is one of the strongest emotions, and one that is often deeply rooted in your sense of identity. Because if you hold genuine contempt for something, it’s usually because it flies in the face of your core personal values. It’s an emotion that makes it difficult to even function properly when you’re near the target of your contempt; It’s the kind of emotion that drives people to violence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Despise? Disgusted by? Hmmm..... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragallos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago Infuriated? Disgusted to the point of destruction? I mirror your sentiment, I can't help but be so incredibly angry all the time, it's really hard to focus or direct that energy anymore. Also love a cthulhu mythos reference, nice name. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago I agree with more than half. Probably. And I’m not going to be pedantic and pretend like “everyone” means literally 100% of the population. But “everyone” is still a strong word, and we have SO many people who have been conditioned their entire lives to equate material wealth with admirable people and lives well lived. They might be jealous of the rich, but it’s the same way they might be jealous of a professional athlete or a rock star. It’s not “fuck that guy,” it’s “I want to be that guy.” permalink fedilink source parent [+] moakley@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Regardless of their feelings on the rich, I think you'll find that most people aren't ok with the murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless ofc the one being murdered is a murderer themselves ... and many Americans who've dealt with privalized health care can attest to that being true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I fully appreciate what you're saying, and I'm not even saying I disagree. But most people still won't support it. There have been polls. He has a lot of support, but it's definitely not more than half. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Half is still somewhere around 170 million Americans. I mean no political party in recent history has come close to having that kind of support. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Red Hood Has A Point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, this isn't my headcanon (idk if comics have corroborated this): Batman doesn't kill because he realizes he's mentally a mess. He's unstable and, if he lets himself kill, he'd go normal Gotham-insane but with a "justice" kick. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really need a new word for it. Hate isn't right, detest is too little, loath feels dormant... I need a word to describe the roiling plasma of rage that rests in my heart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago Revolutionary fervor? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago* When anger and disgust combine, you get contempt. And while the word doesn’t sound super impactful, contempt is one of the strongest emotions, and one that is often deeply rooted in your sense of identity. Because if you hold genuine contempt for something, it’s usually because it flies in the face of your core personal values. It’s an emotion that makes it difficult to even function properly when you’re near the target of your contempt; It’s the kind of emotion that drives people to violence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Despise? Disgusted by? Hmmm..... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragallos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago Infuriated? Disgusted to the point of destruction? I mirror your sentiment, I can't help but be so incredibly angry all the time, it's really hard to focus or direct that energy anymore. Also love a cthulhu mythos reference, nice name. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago I agree with more than half. Probably. And I’m not going to be pedantic and pretend like “everyone” means literally 100% of the population. But “everyone” is still a strong word, and we have SO many people who have been conditioned their entire lives to equate material wealth with admirable people and lives well lived. They might be jealous of the rich, but it’s the same way they might be jealous of a professional athlete or a rock star. It’s not “fuck that guy,” it’s “I want to be that guy.” permalink fedilink source parent [+] moakley@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Regardless of their feelings on the rich, I think you'll find that most people aren't ok with the murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless ofc the one being murdered is a murderer themselves ... and many Americans who've dealt with privalized health care can attest to that being true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I fully appreciate what you're saying, and I'm not even saying I disagree. But most people still won't support it. There have been polls. He has a lot of support, but it's definitely not more than half. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Half is still somewhere around 170 million Americans. I mean no political party in recent history has come close to having that kind of support. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Red Hood Has A Point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, this isn't my headcanon (idk if comics have corroborated this): Batman doesn't kill because he realizes he's mentally a mess. He's unstable and, if he lets himself kill, he'd go normal Gotham-insane but with a "justice" kick. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really need a new word for it. Hate isn't right, detest is too little, loath feels dormant... I need a word to describe the roiling plasma of rage that rests in my heart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago Revolutionary fervor? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago* When anger and disgust combine, you get contempt. And while the word doesn’t sound super impactful, contempt is one of the strongest emotions, and one that is often deeply rooted in your sense of identity. Because if you hold genuine contempt for something, it’s usually because it flies in the face of your core personal values. It’s an emotion that makes it difficult to even function properly when you’re near the target of your contempt; It’s the kind of emotion that drives people to violence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Despise? Disgusted by? Hmmm..... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragallos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago Infuriated? Disgusted to the point of destruction? I mirror your sentiment, I can't help but be so incredibly angry all the time, it's really hard to focus or direct that energy anymore. Also love a cthulhu mythos reference, nice name. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago Revolutionary fervor? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago* When anger and disgust combine, you get contempt. And while the word doesn’t sound super impactful, contempt is one of the strongest emotions, and one that is often deeply rooted in your sense of identity. Because if you hold genuine contempt for something, it’s usually because it flies in the face of your core personal values. It’s an emotion that makes it difficult to even function properly when you’re near the target of your contempt; It’s the kind of emotion that drives people to violence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Despise? Disgusted by? Hmmm..... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ragallos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago Infuriated? Disgusted to the point of destruction? I mirror your sentiment, I can't help but be so incredibly angry all the time, it's really hard to focus or direct that energy anymore. Also love a cthulhu mythos reference, nice name. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago I agree with more than half. Probably. And I’m not going to be pedantic and pretend like “everyone” means literally 100% of the population. But “everyone” is still a strong word, and we have SO many people who have been conditioned their entire lives to equate material wealth with admirable people and lives well lived. They might be jealous of the rich, but it’s the same way they might be jealous of a professional athlete or a rock star. It’s not “fuck that guy,” it’s “I want to be that guy.” permalink fedilink source parent
[+] moakley@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Regardless of their feelings on the rich, I think you'll find that most people aren't ok with the murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless ofc the one being murdered is a murderer themselves ... and many Americans who've dealt with privalized health care can attest to that being true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I fully appreciate what you're saying, and I'm not even saying I disagree. But most people still won't support it. There have been polls. He has a lot of support, but it's definitely not more than half. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Half is still somewhere around 170 million Americans. I mean no political party in recent history has come close to having that kind of support. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Red Hood Has A Point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, this isn't my headcanon (idk if comics have corroborated this): Batman doesn't kill because he realizes he's mentally a mess. He's unstable and, if he lets himself kill, he'd go normal Gotham-insane but with a "justice" kick. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless ofc the one being murdered is a murderer themselves ... and many Americans who've dealt with privalized health care can attest to that being true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I fully appreciate what you're saying, and I'm not even saying I disagree. But most people still won't support it. There have been polls. He has a lot of support, but it's definitely not more than half. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Half is still somewhere around 170 million Americans. I mean no political party in recent history has come close to having that kind of support. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I fully appreciate what you're saying, and I'm not even saying I disagree. But most people still won't support it. There have been polls. He has a lot of support, but it's definitely not more than half. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Half is still somewhere around 170 million Americans. I mean no political party in recent history has come close to having that kind of support. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Half is still somewhere around 170 million Americans. I mean no political party in recent history has come close to having that kind of support. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Red Hood Has A Point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, this isn't my headcanon (idk if comics have corroborated this): Batman doesn't kill because he realizes he's mentally a mess. He's unstable and, if he lets himself kill, he'd go normal Gotham-insane but with a "justice" kick. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, this isn't my headcanon (idk if comics have corroborated this): Batman doesn't kill because he realizes he's mentally a mess. He's unstable and, if he lets himself kill, he'd go normal Gotham-insane but with a "justice" kick. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 138 points 2 years ago (2 children) Whoa, I've heard some overblown jury pool bias arguments but appearing in a documentary and sharing evidence that hasn't even been shared in discovery sounds pretty unacceptable. If the documentary people were able to read/view/discuss this evidence, what was the delay in getting it to the defense attorneys? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 126 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Seeing as how people who are in favor of jury nullification in this case are vastly more likely to watch such a documentary, if they then exclude any9ne who has seen it, this is a great way to decrease the odds he goes free. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 126 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Seeing as how people who are in favor of jury nullification in this case are vastly more likely to watch such a documentary, if they then exclude any9ne who has seen it, this is a great way to decrease the odds he goes free. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wait, isn't this pretty similar to how the very-obvious rapist Bill Cosby ultimately got off? That strategy... that actually might work, even without jury nullification. Also I just gotta say... NYC Mayor and "hair and makeup" in the same sentence made me laugh. I know that's a technical term but, c'mon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not quite. The prosecution fucked that up by offering him immunity in exchange for testimony. Under that agreement, Cosby never should have even seen the inside of a jail cell. They absolutely should have not made that deal, but the integrity of the justice system (if such a concept exists) demanded that Cosby be released. If they can somehow prove that the arrest or search was illegal, that's a huge deal and will get a ton of evidence tossed or even the whole trial nullified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago If they can somehow prove that the arrest or search was illegal, that’s a huge deal and will get a ton of evidence tossed or even the whole trial nullified. I can nearly guarantee you that one of the courts, whether the current court or a later appellant court, will weasel their way to saying that the evidence being used would have been found anyway (the second exception), and thus won't get thrown out even if they admit to the search being illegal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not quite. The prosecution fucked that up by offering him immunity in exchange for testimony. Under that agreement, Cosby never should have even seen the inside of a jail cell. They absolutely should have not made that deal, but the integrity of the justice system (if such a concept exists) demanded that Cosby be released. If they can somehow prove that the arrest or search was illegal, that's a huge deal and will get a ton of evidence tossed or even the whole trial nullified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago If they can somehow prove that the arrest or search was illegal, that’s a huge deal and will get a ton of evidence tossed or even the whole trial nullified. I can nearly guarantee you that one of the courts, whether the current court or a later appellant court, will weasel their way to saying that the evidence being used would have been found anyway (the second exception), and thus won't get thrown out even if they admit to the search being illegal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago If they can somehow prove that the arrest or search was illegal, that’s a huge deal and will get a ton of evidence tossed or even the whole trial nullified. I can nearly guarantee you that one of the courts, whether the current court or a later appellant court, will weasel their way to saying that the evidence being used would have been found anyway (the second exception), and thus won't get thrown out even if they admit to the search being illegal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] soundimus@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* Skip the first 1:50:00 of the video unless you like staring at doors and cops. permalink fedilink source parent