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submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

he is going mask off Adolf Hitler mode recently (since a few years) and apparently it's causing a split in the party with most preferring to remain cryptofascist lol. they don't have any real mass support yet thankfully but still, sucks that nobody has killed this guy yet and the state just lets him do this shit.

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago

what mask? that logo is the most nazi shit i've seen outside of a swastika

[-] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago

These complete goobers are probably using it for visual symmetry with swastikas, but the symbol itself is a shield knot, which is like, a super common and basic knot that's been around for ages. It's a ward knot, and was often used to decorate, you guessed it, shields.

Unfortunately (and this is true outside of Ireland as well), a lot of fascists love Celtic knotwork (almost as much as they love Norse motifs).

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

There's also the Brigid's cross that's a popular Irish/Celtic symbol during Imbolc and uhhhh

Obviously in Ireland this is still super popular and not even remotely associated with swastikas but I was still slightly apprehensive about my sister in law posting a cocktail with one in the foam because that woulda looked REALLY sus if it landed outside its target group

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

for sure lol, that's relatively new from what i know. they definitely weren't using it two or three years ago. they've never been "mask on" if you're remotely politically literate but Barrett's trajectory the last few years is just something else.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago
[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

That mask is in the trash huh? For those wondering the JQ is "the Jewish question"

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

Felt a bit masochistic and listened to this speech and holy moly was this awkward.

Just zero charisma, nothing. He tries to make a bombastic speech (like his idol I suppose) but it completely falls apart because he constantly needs to make pauses to look down and read his script again, sometimes after just one sentence. And don’t even get me started with his weird voice and delivery. Just urgh. visible-disgust

[-] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

lol yeah that doesn't surprise me, they're really not sending their best here. he is very much still a fringe figure who doesn't command much respect aside from a small dedicated band of other pathetic fascists. and hopefully the pivot to mask off will shake out to be a politically bad decision, not that we're immune or anything but the Irish masses aren't exactly chomping at the bit for national socialism.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

I hate to say this because it's very treatbrained but that picture is perfect. His head in the little symbol with the ring around him? That's him!

[-] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

This man's Wikipedia talk page has a discussion about whether or not praising Hitler as the greatest leader in history and constantly quoting Mein Kampf makes you a Nazi and they landed on no. Until the NYT calls him a Nazi, he's a far right activist.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Good old wiki moderation. Can't definitively say the sky's blue until NYT/BBC retract that story about it maybe being red.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

"At least we're not COMMUNISTS! Middle school history classes in the west said that communism was bad. Ergo, nazism is good."

I always point out that they are "national SOCIALISTS". If CHUDs keep trying to say leftists are the real racists, I'll just claim they're "the real communists".

[-] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So what's the stance on freeze-peach in Ireland? I know not every country is as stupid about it as the US, but if saying "Hitler was right" isn't over the line then I guess it's just another case of liberals being closeted fascists themselves.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

most people are liberals (of course) who don't necessarily, or consciously, uphold free speech as part of their ideology but suffer from severe political apathy. because things have been so bad here for so long due to speedrun neoliberalism, most people (predominantly homeowners, so it's quite a generational thing here. young people are much more likely to believe in the possibility of change) are totally jaded about the state of things, corruption etc. as well as having been raised on a neo-catholic individualist mindset. in terms of the liberal ruling class, they have had a "head in the sand" approach towards these growing fascist movements for years, refusing to suppress or even acknowledge them, so you see how it starts to get out of hand. it's basically what you said in that case. the good news is these are still relatively fringe movements which i would say don't yet out-compete the left in terms of mass support or organisation, only in terms of willingness to do violence and tacit support by the govt. which is bad, but i have faith that as they grow in prominence we do have a growing militant left ready to rise to the task of violently opposing them (already happening to some extent).

[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Throw cheese at him until he dies

[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Kim Il sung was a great man who saved the people of his country ,I have so much respect for Kim Il Sung

saving the great working Korean people from bullshit like this deserves respect

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Lots of better reason to hate fascism, but the house style for their logos is so fucking ugly.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

How popular are these fascists? This is concerning. I've heard of immigrants being lynched/abused in Ireland for years now but I didn't realize people were outright nazis.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

not very popular thankfully. i would say in terms of mass support they are still relatively fringe, but have had a scary gain in support/prominence over the last decade where before they were practically invisible. hardly anybody is voting for them. but if you read about the Dublin riot in 2023, that was a mass fascist riot in reaction to someone who happened to be an immigrant committing an (admittedly horrific) violent crime in the city. hundreds of fascists roamed free around the city centre wrecking shit and assaulting brown people and the govt/cops were completely unprepared to do anything about it. so it's still a fringe movement, but white supremacy is absolutely on the rise here the last 10 years and i wouldn't be surprised if they try for a march on Rome moment before too long. they are a small group but well organised and committed, and crucially they go largely unsuppressed by the liberal state.

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