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[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 days ago (2 children)

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/does-nicotine-affect-muscle-growth

There is data to show nicotine might have a performance increasing effects on people. However, the idea is more that you ingest a safe amount via methods that are not smoking/chewing.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 days ago (1 children)

THAT'S WHY I DRINK A SUGAR-FREE REDBULL WITH EXTRA CREATINE, PROTEIN POWDER, AND PROBIOTICS MIXED IN WHILE CHEWING SEVEN ZYNS BEFORE EVERY 15 MINUTE SET. I NO LONGER SLEEP AND MY HEARTBEATS CANNOT BE DISTINGUISHED. MY LUNGS ARE PERFECT AND MY BODY IS PRISTINE!

[–] [email protected] 83 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Your heartbeat is measured in Hz

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Come to think of it, a normal heart rate would be like 1-3hz depending on activity

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Thanks for clarifying that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Im stealing this for if my brother complains about his heartbeat after staying up for like 18 hours on six cans of red bull again

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (17 children)

Nicotine itself is hardly worse than say caffeine. But obviously the negative effects of burning and inhaling a cigarette (with all that it contains), especially the carcinogenic agents, is absolutely stupid to think it's an even trade to pump your workout

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Oh, nicotine is way worse. It may not harm your health directly, but addictiveness is exponentially worse.

Wikipedia: Caffeine - Dependence and Withdrawal: Moderately physical dependence and withdrawal symptoms may occur upon abstinence, with greater than 100 mg caffeine per day, although these symptoms last no longer than a day

Wikipedia: Nicotine withdrawal: Symptoms are usually strongest for the first few days and then dissipate over 2–4 weeks (...) In a minority of smokers, cravings may persist for years.

Edit: Left out the "Caffeine" in "Caffeine - Dependance and Withdrawal"

Edit to add: Caffeine withdrawal causes you to be annoyed for a day. Nicotine causes real, actual cravings (you know you need nicotine, whereas for caffeine you're just generally "moody" - most people don't feel "i need caffeine, now", and even if you do, chances are, if you run out of coffee and can't get it within less than a day, the "craving" just stops).

For some, many of whom I know, quitting nicotine is downright impossible due to the cravings. For quitting, toning down is key. Those that quit either relapse momentarily in times of stress (usually for about a week or so), or complain of very strong cravings every few weeks/months.

Additionally, nicotine isn't the only addictive compound in cigarettes, and from what I've heard, vaping, gum, etc. just isn't it for some - people also get addicted to cigatettes themselves.

Not to mention, vaping causes pneumothorax and all the other alternatives cause some harm as well, although much less than cigarettes proper.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I smoked cigarettes for four years, then quit for a decade. I was incredibly stressed out and had 2-3 cigarettes for a couple days in a row and now I’m addicted again. I hope I will be able to quit soon, I just have to stop working where I am first, because I need the five minute breaks and don’t get them otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is switching to vaping an option? You'd still be getting the nicotine, but not the smoke/tar

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It is, but I feel like the additional harm to myself is worth not getting a vape with all of the environmental drawbacks to the casing and battery, especially because I really think it’ll only be another few weeks. I already have a new job lined up, and I won’t be able to smoke during that really at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

As a long time daily coffee drinker, that is definitely not accurate about caffeine withdrawal. Every time I try to quit caffeine I go through multiple weeks of depression and physical weakness symptoms.

And as a former smoker, nicotine is still significantly worse. Never touch the stuff, not even once. For a lot of people, there just is no going back from it. It claims you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've smoked cigars occasionally, maybe as many as 2-3 per week for 2 weeks in a row and then just stopped with no signs of addiction. Nicotine is often described as one of the most addictive drugs and I sometimes wonder if I just never took enough to get addicted in the first place or my experience is a result of lower than average susceptibility to nicotine addiction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Probably both. They're not mutually exclusive

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I mean, we are talking about a crowd where steroid abuse is super common. Taking some nicotine to get a pump isn't really anywhere near being outside the realm of an unreasonable health risk, to a large portion of this demographic.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you just smoke two (for the health benefits) you don't even need to work out.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well if I smoke four (for the health benefits), then it's like I worked out twice!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they don't allow it at the casino so I can't smoke while I gamble (for the health benefits)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Army commander says "smoke 'em if you got 'em" right before we enter battle, but I already have (for health benefits).

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago

Gotta confuse the lungs babe

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Smoking doesn't increase testosterone ... it makes your voice sound like you have more testosterone

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So if I have more testosterone, at one point I'll be coughing?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Are you John Wayne?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Smoking cigarettes for health benefits is like messing with an angry bear, so that you can have a jog.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Either that, or retarded is fucking him

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Retarded do be fucking a lot of us... Without consent, I might add.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

And no lube either

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Autism doesn't count as retardation. I looked it up when I used to play league and people would ask if I was fucking retarded. Was gonna be like 'yes lol' but it doesn't count.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've seen this once before. Addicted and hindered but can't accept it. So they convinced themselves that what they were doing was right

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, this is clearly a bit, but I don't think addicts smoke exactly one cigarette a day. Some people who smoke small amounts never become addicted. I used to smoke, like, half a pack over a few weeks, forget where I left it, and then go months without smoking. Haven't smoked at all in probably eight years now, not because I intentionally quit but just because I couldn't be assed to carry them around any more. (I really only started buying cigs so that I could stop telling people I didn't smoke when they asked to bum one.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you were basically enabling people's addiction?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

What can I say, I aim to please!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ive seen people talk about how to increase their testosterone level(or avoid decreasing it), but arent there pills with the purpose of increasing it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

my dad has a testosterone gel. because without it he cannot gain hardly any muscle at all, like I worked out for like 2 months and could lift more than he could in over 1+ year of working out 5 days a week.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

What listening to Andy Taytay does to you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Well, no, but actually yes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Yep. Completely retarded.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

The purpose of working out is to look cool......... Now that I've discovered cigarettes that's mission accomplished.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Dr Gundy follower in the wild.

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