No, they expect the DNC to pull out a new corpse that will maintain all of trumps policies and speed up deportations further but at least the ICE headquarters will have nice feel good words painted on the wall.
Still not gonna happen. I don't know why anyone is pretending we can have a fair election at this point
I'm talking about misguided "progressives" not a through and through establishment twitter ghoul.
Many of them are on the brink but they need to be given license to reject the institutions.
Basically.
The one good thing about a Trump presidency is that it’s radicalization season. We got Peter Daou last time and for many well-meaning liberals, it’s more or less giving them permission to crash out. What are they going to do? Call you a tumblr SJW? They’re calling you that already!
there is a reality where the Democrats never win another US election.
Unless Trump becomes dictator for life, we're gonna get a democrat after Trump. American independents vote on economic vibes and the vibes will only get worse. That means every four years, the two parties will swap presidents and conditions will continue to get worse.
I would not count out Trump being dictator for life, or failing that, for the voting process to become so ratfucked that dems cannot win.
I heard some conspiracy (that's probably technically mostly true but you know 
libs ) that apparently some number of probable non-Trump votes were suppressed somehow, which sounds like 2.0 of whatever al gore, so probably we'll get v3 of that in 2028.
Didn’t musk have control over the voting machines in Pennsylvania or something crazy that everyone just shrugged off
It's perfectly possible the Republicans just rig the vote considering the whole "blatant disregard for the law" thing going on right now.
Why would that? It really isn't that important and the democrats are happy to throw elections.
Weird thing to depend on in the fascist US. Your average progressive liberal didn't even like Biden (if they did genuinely like him, that person is not the subject of this post). They are getting the message, but repeating liberal tropes and now is the time to interrupt that cycle of waiting to take leadership from the Democrats that will never arrive.
I'm not discounting a Trump dictatorship entirely, I'm saying that the average voter has the memory of a gold fish. The era of two-term consecutive presidents died with Obama. From now on "independents" who decide the election will say "hmmm gas got higher under X. Time to vote Y."
I don't know what you people are complaining about; my investments look great from all the way over here, working overseas.
Unless Trump becomes dictator for life, we're gonna get a democrat after Trump.
Not so sure about that. Almost 5 million votes were thrown out in the 2024-election. Why wouldn't the republicans keep doing that?
Looking into this...
there's something about this attitude that dovetails really well with the lasting inertia of amerikkkan christianity. the liberal simply plans to indeed wait it out until either they die or they're killed or they're killed through social murder. because doing things is for bad, other people and the holy must simply take it.
I know I browbeat this whole site over media comparisons (because I’m a gramsci enjoyer partially) but this leftypol post is still relevant almost a decade later.
The virgin Potter vs the CHAD Goku
Damn, that's so accurate. Harry potter is literally just a manifestation of liberalism. It's why I guess it's so easy for liberals to apply it to reality, even though material reality doesn't match it.
Pretty funny that it gets selected over Star wars, hunger games etc. which have a bit more materialism in their stories. But I think it's because that would actually require them to do something that is not conforming to their ideology.
Even going further with this analogy: when Voldemort takes over the government and schools, what do the "good guys" of those institutions do? Basically nothing. Everything relies on the individual, Harry, coming to their rescue.
Shaun talks about this more in his video on Harry Potter. Large systems can't change but one person can make a small difference for themselves. And how in the final battle Harry doesn't even do anything, the deciding factor is a wand's interpretation of property
the shiny heart of liberalism: commodity fetishism
Is this the ~2 hour video on Harry Potter by Shaun? I'm unfamiliar with this video and want to check it out.
That's the one. You should watch his videos if you're not familiar with him as he'll drop something in 6 months, talk about an obscure short story that's an analogy for what's going on right now, and then it enters the Hexbear lexicon
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Everything relies on the individual, Harry, coming to their rescue.
TBH sounds like potential Luigism, if you can convince the lib that Luigi is like Harry instead of AOC/Nancy Pelosi.
Worth noting star wars is about the Vietnam War and inspired by Soviet cinema. Liberals could never
YES
Hell yeah, also Digimon Adventure, the Chad Digidestined
If dems get back in what happens? Hoist an lgbt flag and call it a day?
They'll do as much as they did at the end of Trump's last term, which was precisely fuck all.
They'll probably publicly undo all the anti-woke anti-DEI stuff while continuing all his other policies.
Why, the most important election of our lifetimes of course.
Between two neoliberals who openly say they would never support universal Healthcare and we need to work with the Republicans and no were not closing any of the camps.
I think what I'm learning talking to people is that when they are feeling vulnerable, that's when they are most open to solutions I present. I think we need to push on these vulnerabilities because in a way they are the contradictions of capitalism playing out in their consciousness. And as we know, contradiction is how things change.
Unfortunately vulnerability only comes when they are personally affected, which happens to everyone differently.
Democrats are an empty vessel for whatever will win when republicans make enough people mad. That is survival in this system. Unfortunately it does nothing for people. This is about where we have been for decades. Democrats will win again.
To be fair, if the Republicans manage to make third terms a thing, they'll get to have Obama in 2032 (now you might be tempted to think they'll rush out in droves if Obama runs in 28, but remember, so will Republicans to stop America from having a black person run America again)
Idk, but It’s gotten to a point where I judge people who vote
cascadia is a fake thing dont even
It's already done
lmao your settler separatism, having deep ties to fascism, is not a revolutionary option it is petty nationalism
Frankly, this has all been addressed in previous posts from this account, including the (now defunct) ties to white nationalism, and the wimpy liberalism the "movement" (which isn't real) represents in the modern day. It has been discussed how the concept of "Cascadia" is, in fact, a useful rhetorical tool in the current moment, to pipeline progressive liberals into discussions that don't center around United States politics (with a layer of irony applied).
It's fine if you didn't read those posts, but this disingenuous and bad-faith approach to the discussion is incredibly uncomradely and offensive. I suggest that you offer people, especially with an @hexbear account, an opportunity to address concerns you may have in the future, instead of making assumptions. You don't have to agree with the conclusions, but I think you'll find very little that's incompatible with the Hexbear consensus.
Edit: link for your convenience, the NTI is addressed at the bottom of the post. You don't have to agree with it. https://hexbear.net/comment/5576727
I am critiquing from a Marxist perspective, of which Decolonialism is a large part. "Hexbear consensus" doesn't really exist because hexbear is a mish mash of competing ideologies
This is inherently a settler nationalist movement, inherently reactionary. You are on stolen land, settled land. Inventing false nationalisms that have its roots in white supremacy is not decolonialism, it is just a different outlet of that nationalism. It is inherently a petite bourgeoisie kind of nationalism (thus a petty nationalism).This is like being a Texan nationalist, a Californian nationalist, a Quebec nationalist, Deseret, etc. You have still a colonial type of nationalism. The people who truly own the land and from which it was stolen still exist, they exist within 'cascadia' and will be oppressed within it no matter what flag changes.
It is not coming from the oppressed peoples, but comes within a white petite bourgeoisie nationalist character. You disguise this by saying "oh well we fight for the workers, we fight against the US" when its less like New Afrika and more like the Boer sepratists. Oppressor Nationalism. "Cascadia" will be an enemy of anti-colonialism just like the US.
I am critiquing from a Marxist perspective, of which Decolonialism is a large part. "Hexbear consensus" doesn't really exist because hexbear is a mish mash of competing ideologies
This is valid, and welcome, comrade-to-comrade. I don't think that your original post(s) could be characterized as "critique". We don't need to be terse with each other here like with other platforms. I do appreciate that you posted something more substantial, so we can have a discussion about this topic, and hopefully refine both of our ideas.
As to the content of your post:
I do understand where you are coming from. I don't fully disagree with you. I do want to clarify a few things that are foundational to this "thought experiment" of sorts (it is just online posting, it isn't real):
That was going to be "just a few things" but I think I'm going to leave it at that for the moment. I hope that clarifies what this is and is not meant to represent. You aren't really wrong that a "Cascadia movement" will probably not actually be socialist. We agree that the work would not be done if it existed. My point is that the material conditions of my corner of the world only allow for that level of progress at this time, but it would be progress that could be built on late in our lifetimes, or by the next generation (who would be less America-brained).
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