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or just talk about the games in general. Is Black Mesa better than the original Half-Life? What is the best Half-Life game? Why are the games still so good? How about the post-soviet setting? How about how cool it is that most of the main enemies are cops and troops?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

The creatures from Xen had a right to defend themselves

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

The first time a fast zombie attacks you in Ravenholm is the scariest thing that's ever happened to me in a video game.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Half Life 1 & 2 are the most overrated games ever, rivaled only by Metal Gear

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago) (1 children)

I think it was the first fps with a decent physics engine so for over a decade it got treated like the second coming of christ. It was a good game, don't get me wrong but I don't think the game was near as meaningful as the engine as far as its impact.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 49 minutes ago

I'd agree on the last part but I'd also claim that both HLs acting as tech demos for their respective engine does make them incredibly important and meaningful as games. Like it all seems sort of trite now downstream of what happened, but I don't think it would've happened if they didn't do it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

They should've put melee akin to Dark Messiah in 2 it, it works so good!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

I've only played Half-Life 2 and it's good but clearly been Seinfeld-Effected by the industry in the twenty-odd years since release, to the point where I'd feel weird recommending it outside of "it's very cheap and pretty good but nothing jaw dropping"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Using ladders in half life sometimes can get very annoying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Hot Take: HL2 is probably one of my favorite games ever, but the time gap between then end of HL1 and the beginning of HL2 feels very much like "our game made too much money and so we had to make up some shit" in a way that is less a continuation and more like an entirely different story.

But HL3 confirmed, its coming, i'm camping outside valve headquarters already.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I played HL2 for the first time when it was free recently. It was fun, definitely dated, but not in a bad way. Valve really cooked with the gravity gun.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

I tried playing HL2 once, got to the airboat section near the start and then got so motion sick from it for multiple hours that I have accidentally Pavlovian conditioned myself to never want to try another Half-Life game again

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The gun play in HL2 is weak. Without the gravity gun making up for it the rest of the arsenal is lackluster. The pistol has terrible sound design for a gun you are forced to use at anything medium range. Puff puff puff.

Otherwise it has a fun campaign. Drags in a few places with the urgency of the plot getting slowed down by vehicle segments.

The urban combat against the alien overlords and their cop minions as you spearhead a rebellion against them was great, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

The Pistol sound really bad and it looks like a toy gun

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

I love HL1 and the expansion packs, and I also love the many mods that the HL community developed over the years. I really dislike how HL2 makes Gordon/You a messiah like figure, and the vehicle sessions suck. Other than that I think HL2 is a really good game with some fun mechanics.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's funny to go back to it now after years of player characters that can mantle and slide and so on and find yourself as a little quake guy just vibing out. pingin around the environment like a perfectly capsuloid collider with only ladders and vehicles as your intimate companions

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 hours ago

The movement and gunplay are the main parts that feel like it has aged, and not in a bad way. You move so much slower in modern games. Maybe it stands out more in the half life games because you're a quake guy in tiny realistic corridors

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Im old. Got HL1 on a CD ROM IIRC. Amazed the first time I saw a bullet hole in a wall behind where I had shot. That was so revolutionary!

When HL2 came out it was one of the first games I bought on steam. Took the day off work. The dystopian beginning, the cop telling you to 'pick it up' as he knocks the can off the garbage. Just so ground breaking. Terrifying. Don't even get me started on ravenholm lol.

When Alyx came out, again day off work and again a total light year ahead of all video games in terms of content and interaction. The only thing missing is Alyx 2 goddamnit. Gabe I know you're on lemmy, throw us a bone!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Would be interesting to see gaben on hexbear

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I want to believe

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't play the first one when it came out and feel like I kind of missed the boat on it. I grew up on Quake and Quake II and played HL2 at release so I never feel like going back to HL1 like the others

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I think you should give HL1 a try. In a lot of ways it's the culmination of the Quake-style FPS generation, where you're running around real fast and picking up health packs and have like 10 weapons to choose from. Same level format too, with increasingly intense little baddies leading up to a big unique boss battle.

Still waiting for Trump to issue an executive order mandating a full remaster of Quake II.

a-little-trolling "The Strogg, folks. They're taking the arms, they're taking the legs, very disrespectful. But we're sending in the most tremendous drop-pods you've ever seen, and we're gonna clean that whole thing up. You're going to have so many armor shards you'll be saying 'Please no more, we have too many armor shards!' but we're going to bring out the big beautiful railgun and shut that whole thing down."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

I've played through it, technically twice because I got stuck at the end the first time. I just never have the hankering to play it again like I do the others.

Like, I know the early stages of the first two quakes so well and I feel like I could drop into them any time. I just never feel like playing half life 1

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Episode 2 is the only well designed game of the three HL2 games.

Half Life Alyx has way better writing than any previous games in the series.

It's really not a big mystery why Episode 3 never came out and it's good that it didn't. Whatever they'll make next in the HL universe will be better than whatever they would have put out in 2010 or whenever.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

It's really not a big mystery why Episode 3 never came out and it's good that it didn't

Gabe himself even said that there was no reason for Episode 3 to exist at the time. They could have easily made another episode to wrap up the story but couldn't come up with any particularly unique ideas for it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I'm a slop enjoyer. My favorite parts were the Gearbox spin-offs to Half Life 1. They were short and fun. I won't say they're better than Half Life 2, but if I have to tell you what I expect to replay from the series the next time I do...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Opposing Force was my fav

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

black mesa made some weird decisions I don't like. For example, they removed the detail of Nihilanth third hand being grafted for seemingly no reason. And the canonization of Eli and Kleiner felt like pointless fan-service

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And the canonization of Eli and Kleiner felt like pointless fan-service

That was already retconned by Valve in Half Life 2:

Now, let's see. The last time I saw you, I sent you up for help after the resonance cascade.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

good point. I forgot about this dialogue

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

Isnt that a HL2 screenshot? Anyway that water level in HL2 fucked my FPS as a kid and I never got past it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

HL3 confirmed

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I thought Xen was mostly great.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

I thought that the original version of Interloper was better than the one in Black Mesa. Still not great, but it was shorter. Also, the original On A Rail is fine.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My hot take is that the episodes were when Half-Life fell off. It should have been a direct sequel called Half-Life 3 and there should have been no episodes. Gameplay wise Episode 1 is kinda mediocre and Episode 2 is better, but neither have the cohesive themes, pacing, and story of Half-Life 2.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yeah but they added bloom! I did like episode 2 a fair bit and I come back to it often. It wasn't revolutionary like the original HL2.

Oh and fuck manhacks worst enemy ever put into a game and on my shitty celeron laptop them exploding would drop me to like 1fps.

Another take is I actually love HL Alyx a whole lot more I don't think any gaming experience can top that one. I was kinda annoyed with all the people who complained it wasn't like bonerworks and didn't contain full 360 cock simulation or whatever I think they made a VR game so accessible basically anybody can play it.

Jeff section was top tier, it doesn't replay well cos ofc its the same thing every time but for a one off experience nothing has really hit the same heights of genuine fear for me. Also helps I'm tiny so Jeff towered above me I actually had to take the headset off cos i was crying catgirl-cry

Oh and my favourite way of replaying HL2 is on the original xbox it just feels more cool to me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

The Half-Life games are Fine™ but I wouldn't really recommend them to anybody today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Make me, punk hst-gun