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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It's really important to remind people who are defending Musk what he was doing in Germany just a few days before this salute.

He was fucking defending Nazis.

This salute was no accident.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

Even Musk hasn't claimed it was an accident.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

Can we chill with the Nazi salute guys?

Like, I get it, Musk is a Nazi shitbag. Not much of a surprise there.

But I've seen like 100 posts about the damn salute and like 2 about the flood of EOs that Trump has put out the last two days.

Starting to wonder if the salute was an intentional distraction. Because of course the Internet would be on fire about that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 31 minutes ago

I think it's very important to drive the point home that the masks are falling off

They are neo-nazis, and they stopped being ashamed of it, tell everyone, it's going to be rough

[–] [email protected] 4 points 57 minutes ago

I was talking about this with my friend and she was like, "I heard it's just a Roman Salute." Be ready to be surprised at how many people will defend this crap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Someone might, but sure as fuck not twice in a row.

I mean I did once accidentally do one because i was just trying to wave to people sitting on the ground and automatically adjusted my hand angle to be flat towards them and did not realize what I just did until they pointed it out. "Slightly" different context though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 41 minutes ago

Yeah, I wouldn't rule out mistakenly doing the salute. But you don't mistakenly do it twice and then not apologize for doing people considered to be a nazi salute. Even if you do it once and you don't apologize after being called out you're a nazi. It's such a taboo thing that you'd be apologetic or at the very least remorseful or ashamed. Musk is none of those things.

And to anyone defending Musk, if he pulled out his dick and swung it around on stage and then doesn't show any remorse for showing his dick, would you think it was accidental?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I saw a nazi just as clearly as you saw a nazi. And no, we did not just see a nazi salute, we saw a complete nazi piece of shit. There's no more to this story, nothing here is up for debate.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago

That one was actually trying to be sneaky, kind of. Ah, more innocent times I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 hours ago

Billions of people, including those in high positions and with cameras on them all the time wake up every day, go about their business and then go to bed in the evening without even once doing a nazi salute by accident throughout their day. It's not that hard actually. I'm on a pretty great streak since my birth as well and it's really easy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yep. There was a myriad of options to end such speech, including humble waving or nice gestures.

No, that Nazi chose to show a Nazi salute. It was intentional and calculated.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 hours ago

This dude practiced in front of a mirror.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Just went to LinkedIn just to see bottom of the barrel bootlickers defending him.

” He’s autistic”, ” that picture is taken out of context”, ” it’s a Roman salute”, ” look at these out of context pictures of other politicians making the gesture”, ” how can he be a Nazi if he supports Israel?”

No he did a full on deliberate Nazi salute at a far right event.

[–] DakRalter 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm autistic, I've never done this gesture. Everyone's different, of course, but I've never seen anyone at all do this by accident. I've seen the defence that it's a "from my heart to yours" gesture, but if that was true, it would be palm up. Palm up is the giving gesture. Palm down is a saluting gesture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Yeah, excusing it by saying he's autistic is ableist by itself. We're not incapable of understanding dog whistles or concepts, you know?

Especially when people in the same breath call Elon a genius. You can't have it both ways. Either he's clueless and shouldn't be in a position of power, or he's actually a nazi.. and shouldn't be in a position of power

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 hours ago

there is no proof in roman writing or painting of this salute, there is no doubt about Musolinis fascist movement using it in 1919 and later the german nazis adopting it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago

The Roman salute is also known as the fascist salute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 hours ago

This springs to mind:

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-anti-semites-are-completely-unaware-of-the-absurdity

Thus begins four years of trolling. Did he? Didn’t he?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 hours ago

And more to the point, no one stumbles into an extreme-right event, gives a hyper reactionary speech, and does two nazi salutes by mistake.

The media that's helping Musk gaslight everyone should be ashamed of themselves.