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Trump plans to lift the Biden administration’s freeze on supplying 2,000-pound bombs to Israel and reverse sanctions against Israeli settlers.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

After Genocide Joe and Holocaust Harris, we have Destroying Donnie. Too bad #destroyingdonnie won't be amplified by Xitter like the previous two was, to try to sway voters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Make no mistake if they think twisting the algorithm is going to make the voices of the left less disruptive they have no fucking clue what it is like to fight people who believe in their beliefs because they ernestly think they will help and save people.

We were going at Biden and Harris with kid gloves on because we knew Trump was going to be much worse, but the kid gloves are off and leftists will do everything up to and including dying for what we think is right... because we aren't full of shit like the cowards in power are.

I dare them to kick us out of social media conversations, we are just going to become more radicalized into taking direct action instead of asking nicely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

My empathy DEMANDS action. I'll lose my mind otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago)

Fascists will never see you coming out of the night in your acts of resistance because to predict your actions consistently requires actually understanding what makes you tick, and to do that requires recognizing at some level that you have something they do not, integrity in your beliefs, whereas their mental landscape is a barren monoculture of childish hate and bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Doing the right thing is the one thing that bullies will never understand

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Biden already lift them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

He blocked the 2,000 lb. bombs and the 500 lb. bombs. Then he lifted the restriction on the 500 lb. bombs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

I thought he slightly delayed one shipment? At one point I recall Biden removing the restriction as well. I am genuinely wondering whether there was even still a restriction on 2000 pound bombs since Biden recently sent another 8 billion in bombs to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

"We did it Patrick, we saved Palestine!" - Tankies right now

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Where is this take simultaneously coming from for everyone?

Guys. NOBODY. THOUGHT. TRUMP. WAS. BETTER. Now we can finally acknowledge that the American so-called "left" political party is so obscenely fucked that they're complicit in genocide? Literally the hallmark of Nazi Germany? Perhaps we as a people do not really have a lot of choice going on, and impotently choosing between two fascist parties election after election is not going to gradually bring us to democratic reform?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

Trump is so much worse than Harris and Biden though. He lifted this ban, recognizes the settlements and will prevent any other free election that could better things in the future. So if you didnt vote for Harris you didnt just completely doom palestinians but also your country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

He lifted this ban,

I'll say it again. Biden sent FOURTEEN THOUSAND of these bombs already - and that was as of 7 months ago. Enough to literally wipe out half of the population of Gaza.

recognizes the settlements

The fact that you'd say this without specifying which ones really speaks to how little you know about this. The Golan Heights, which the Biden admin already calls as "Israel"? East Jerusalem & the West Bank, which the Clinton admin bantustan-ized in the Oslo Accords and which every subsequent admin recognizes the Palestine side of even less? The Biden administration does not recognize the international consensus on "Israel" having the pre-1967 borders. They don't recognize Palestine, at odds with the international consensus. The entire country was literally formed by ethnic cleansing in the first place. The Biden administration did like three token sanctions on random West Bank settlers, with no recognition that state officials were behind the policy of annexation and the complicity of the military in it.

And what "free election"? 8 years of Biden & Obama admins came and went. The last election in Palestine was under BUSH, and the official U.S. policy, after Hamas (which is a political party, mind you) won a majority of seats in the parliamentary runoff election, was to support the Palestinian Authority in overthrowing the results of the election in an illegal coup, resulting in the civil war that left Hamas in power in Gaza. The U.S. rejection of the election results has been the norm across Bush 2, Obama, Trump 1, and Biden. Not to mention that the entire premise of an election - democracy - is it odds with the fundamentally Jewish supremacist nature of "Israel", a state founded on ethnic "purism", exclusion, apartheid and genocide of an indigenous population, and endless regional expansionist warfare. The U.S. policy is "we accept a complete racial divide and military occupation based on the supremacy of that race in the region, but oh yeah, we'd love if the underclass might eventually have elections or something....I mean, as long as they vote for who we want".

So if you didnt vote for Harris you didnt just completely doom palestinians but also your country.

You think because, out of all the non-Trump voters, your group was in the majority, that everyone who didn't side with you must have been wrong. But you voted for an absolute monster and psychopath, as willfully complicit in genocide as Biden (who you would have voted for also) was. You people split the vote from candidates who aren't complicit in mass murderers, and you still have the gall to accuse everyone else of being the problem. The person you voted for was so far beneath the standards of a free society that people couldn't even stomach it (and not even enough to swing the election, mind you).

It's always the refrain of people doing something horribly immoral, that anybody taking the higher road is just doing "virtue signalling" or "preaching their moral purity". This is just rationalization. You cannot confront your own faults, the deep, horrific faults of your society, so you blame the few lone dissenters who realize that absolute fundamental change is the only path out of this. The 1% of people who voted De la Cruz or Stein did not decide the outcome of this election. 98% of you voted for an absolute monster.

Now what is the point of a representative democracy? We pick the candidate that will do the best by us. Right? You have all completely abandoned that premise. Every election, a D and an R run, one of them wins, they do absolutely whatever they want, and as long as you think the Republicans are even 0.0001% worse, you'll vote for the D. You never abandon that group. This completely sacrifices any power the people have, because we don't have federal referendums, we don't have FPTP, we don't have recalls, we don't have no confidence votes, we don't have null votes, we ONLY get to vote in these elections, and our single power to control this system is completely neutered. All they have to do is find a single issue where they even SOUND better than the Republicans on, and they can be as absolutely corrupt as they want.

Why do you not blame the ~48% Democrat voters for not gathering behind a candidate who isn't a war criminal? Or the ~49% Trump voters? Does it not cause any self-reflection that the crime of all crimes, genocide, is no longer a red line for you in a politician? What is your long-term strategy to bring this genocidal system back under the control of the people - voting for the people who are operating it, without question, forever? Cause I don't think that's gonna work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

Because EVERY discussion had like fifteen tankies going "BuT YoU NeEd A REasON fOr Us tO voTe thAt IsN'T TrUMp!11"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

And the disproof of that argument is Trump sending the 2,000 pound "bunker buster" bombs?

You know how many Biden sent? FOURTEEN. THOUSAND: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-has-sent-israel-thousands-2000-pound-bombs-since-oct-7-2024-06-28/ That's as of last June.

Those bombs can wipe out a hundred people (and did, over and over). You know how many fighting members Hamas (Al Qassam) was supposed to have had as of Oct 7? Forty thousand. Do the math. And then go take a look at the pictures coming out of Gaza this week.

I don't know how you guys don't get this. Biden's policy on Palestine was "no holds barred genocide with lip service otherwise". Trump is the same thing minus the lip service. I think you all need to take a break from talking about this until you've figured out what the hell is going on. Because seriously, if you don't even know what's happening, you're just reacting in fight or flight mode, it's like you're pouring water on an electric fire.

And honestly - your whole depiction of what the "tankies" are saying - are we supposed to rely on your mocking portrayal of them? What did they actually say? Who are we talking about specifically? What was their full argument?

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