It'll take a while, but I do believe we're watching the downfall of Twitter.
And I suspect, now that Bluesky is the clear successor to Twitter, the process will only accelerate.
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It'll take a while, but I do believe we're watching the downfall of Twitter.
And I suspect, now that Bluesky is the clear successor to Twitter, the process will only accelerate.
Give it 6 months and then musky's well funded administration will find a way to make bluesky feel the legal crunch
They can just shift countries. 32% of Bluesky users are from Brazil, ~ 7% from Japan, ~ 4% from the UK and 2% from Germany.
Likely there will be an exodus of web services that don't want to trade the further loss of Article 230 and the requirement of Christofascist cemsorship for even less taxes and zero worker protections.
Truth social hasn’t failed yet, it could lose money and it would just be a propaganda service that costs money instead of making money.
It’s not going to have ~~funding~~ bribing problems until Trump is out of office.
Does Musk actually care about Twitter any more?
It's served its purpose. It won the election for Trump. Musk will probably just focus on being Trump's puppy and let Twitter slowly die out.
Ok, can we puh-leese stop talking about corporate media siloses on the fediverse? I keep seeing Elon's stupid mug plastered all over the media, can Lemmy be the exception, pretty please?
I Set up the content filter with „Elon“ and „musk“ which significantly reduced it. Now it’s just posts like these that remain. Can’t recommend enough!
Content filters! I've got them for Trump, Elon, "Slammed", "Dragged", "Blasted" and the question mark, because news headlines in the form of questions can almost always be answered with the word "no" and are not worth my time.
This is 100% the answer. My filter list is exhaustive and its curated a feed for me that doesn't actively destroy my mental health.
Could bluesky have won over Mastodon because of the fediverse barrier where people doesn't know which server to choose?
Bluesky is being run by a funded professional startup team and is aimed at the masses. Mastodon is run by activists and software devs and brings in other like minded folks.
Bluesky has an advertising budget. Bluesky has an entire team just working on User Interface.
The fact that people are so lazy that they keep going for the corporate-sure-to-enshittify options shows how little people actually care about escaping corporate control of their lives.
"It's not my job to contribute to a community project" is just another way to say "it's not my job to make the world a better place."
It's generally easier for the layperson to pay a gym membership than it is to have the upfront cost of a barbell set and coordinating a schedule with their neighbor who owns a treadmill.
I don't want to sound too pro-corporate, I just don't want to fault others when they fall for the veneer of a "cohesive product." It takes a lot of work to organize a community project and why it's so special when they do come together.
The fact that people are so lazy that they keep going for the corporate-sure-to-enshittify options shows how little people actually care about escaping corporate control of their lives.
It's not that deep.
People want to go where other people are. A tiny minority of them are even aware of the things that are influencing your decisions. Not a single moment is spent thinking about whether X or Y is more 'corporately controlled' before deciding to join a new platform.
Mastodon is confusing as shit though. They could have made is not as confusing, but this is what happens when you get backend only developers designing the front end of a product.
Most importantly, Mastodon doesn't have the funding. It always astounds me how people miss that part.
Money lets you fix a lot of problems. Not all. But many.
Of course, it doesn't mean they'll succeed. Google+ had lots of money, too.
Ugh, Google+ was so much better than Facebook. The whole circles concept was a game changer for social media that no one else has really adopted in a meaningful way. Half the reason millennials began to leave Facebook was not wanting their parents seeing what they're posting, so being able to decide which group can see a particular post was an awesome idea.
Sadly it just never got the adoption
I use both. I've been on Mastodon for the better part of a year and only actively tried Bluesky the last couple months. My Bluesky feed is thriving, whereas Mastodon not so much. IMO this is due to Mastodon is missing the major quality of life features of Bluesky.
These things make Bluesky very easy to get started with and more powerful even than Xitter was. It's simply a better product if you have any requirements other than federation. Getting a good feed up and running doesn't take more than an hour or two. Mastodon is a lot more work.
That was part of the reason. I tried explaining Pixelfed to my photographer dad and he completely lost interest when I mentioned instances and equated them to e-mail providers. Non-technical people don't like having to understand a technical aspect, and the nature of federation can't be avoided.
Keep in mind that these are the people who stayed on Twitter after it was infested by the musk. They're leaving because it's turned into a dogshit service, not because of any kind of moral stance. They won't choose one service over another because it's libre or decentralized or community-operated. They'll flock to one that has a low entry barrier and high population.
Speaking of which: Bluesky is where the people are. The merits of a social media provider are worthless if it has a fraction of the population of a direct competitor.
Bluesky offers better access to the content people want with less effort. Mastodon was always going to lose that battle.
I think that's a good part of it, to be honest. Plus I think also helps that Bluesky's handles look visually less confusing and unusual than the conventional double @ sign for the fediverse
@user.bsky.social
vs @[email protected]
Plus other things like having starter packs
That’s exactly it. People are bad at tech and do not understand it. If you even give them an additional option, this may confuse a tremendous amount of people enough to simply lose interest.
Also helps it was created by Jack Dorsey.
Who's now left Bluesky which is probably for the better given his views on a lot of things
I think it was mostly that Mastodon wouldn't send referer headers.
So when people look at where their traffic comes from, 50% would be unknown, 20% would be Twitter, 10% would be Bluesky, and most importantly, Mastodon would never show on that report.
(Numbers made up and inaccurate.)
The only thing I wanna see is the ElonJet guy back in a large platform, so that everyone gets easy access to the muskrat's location. That gets him specially angry as we've seen many times
I would say musk got out of it what he could. Even if it went bankrupt I think he still got his money worth as mad as this sounds.
He “lost” about 75% value of twitter, from $44bn to $10Bn Musk is worth ~$440Bn.
That’s like a normal person with $50k invested losing about $3500 on a stock. You’ll notice it. But it doesn’t change your day any.
(Dunno about the math, might be off)
Who cares...it's just changing one shitpile for the next soon-to-be shitpile. Bluesky will inevitably go down the shitter too once its users have enough inertia to keep them there as they squeeze them dry.
Twitter isn't falling due to not being open source, or not being decentralized, or any of the other reasons I've heard people advocate for mastodon.
People are leaving twitter because it has gone fully right wing in politics. Twitter will not "fail" in the traditional sense. Twitter will fall, but not fail.
Twitter will be the right wing conspiracy platform.
Bluesky will be what twitter was 5 years ago for the left wing.
Nothing else has changed. This isn't a rebellion against corporate social media. This isn't meant to be a fediverse uprising. None of that is happening. This is nothing more than Mary, and Beth who voted for Harris wanting to use twitter how they used to, without right wing agenda being added to their twitter feed. Which is exactly what bluesky is. A twitter clone without the racists.
Bluesky is at least semi-decentralized, however, though not to the same extent as something like Mastodon
I'd also argue that Twitter is also uniquely bad even among other problematic platforms
If nothing else I will personally find it very funny if Elon Musk spent $44,000,000,000 on something and then unintentionally destroyed it in just three years
He didn't spend 44 billion on twitter. He spent 44 billion to gain a hand in the 2024 election. He already won.
The Saudis footed the bill for most of that $44bn - most is only out of pocket about $10bn of it iirc.
Fwiw he didn't actually intend to buy it, he was shitposting and got nailed by the SEC, only THEN did he try to work out what to do with it.
Unfortunately the "what" turned out to be destroying democracy and helping Trump turn the US into a feudal state
Anyone who wants to see everything Musk owns crash and burn?
Good! Let's work to keep the momentum going and encourage everyone you know to boycott Twitter/X. If you still use Twitter/X make a post saying you can find me on Lemmy/Bluesky/Mastodon or whatever website/app you choose to replace it.
Don't let Elon Musk control you and your country, stop Twitter/X now!
MySpace didn’t die overnight; didn’t it take like 8 years for Facebook to overtake it? Anecdotally in my group of friends, the big exodus from MySpace to Facebook took like 2 years from ‘08-‘10
It just occurred to me that the reason I don't remember those events, and have no basis to compare, because I had already left the platforms. Same for Digg.
I deleted my personal and business Twitter account the day Musk took over.
Ahaha YES!
So unfortunate that it had to be this way though, Twitter was the perfect name for such a social media app.