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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (15 children)

It was a pseudo-revival of mid-century folk music. It didn’t last because much of it didn’t have genuine proletarian roots like real folk music. It mimicked the aesthetic and sounds of folk music but none of the content. It never will when it’s just wealthy urbanites cosplaying as poor country bumpkins.

Folk music and related genres (like soul and country and blues) have all suffered for the same reason. Their class character is fake and purely aesthetic today. At least, for the super mainstream bands that make it on the Starbucks Spotify playlist.

There was a megathread a while back about Woody Guthrie. His music lasted because it captured a genuine aspect of working class America in a way that stomp clap hey never can. This Land Is Your Land was a political song. We don’t do that enough anymore, in the name of mass appeal and profit and merchandising. Even Bill Withers, who was merely center-left as far as I know, made music that mattered with lyrics opposing racism and war.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This pattern occurs with leftist/populist expression all the time. It’s heard by many for what it is, but for others it’s merely a catchy tune or a nice painting. I’ve mentioned the Surrealist art movement a few times here, but that’s another example. Salvador Dalí is ostensibly the face of the movement in the average person’s mind, but the Surrealists and he didn’t get along; he ultimately rejected their political message, believing that he could drop the political baggage and just focus on the abstract aesthetics of the movement. While I wouldn’t say his work was necessarily bad (he still applied his paranoiac critical method inspired by Freud) it didn’t have the same significance as Surrealists imo.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dalí only dropped the leftist politics. He was at least a fascist sympathiser and painted hitler a couple of times. The whole ‘apolitical’ thing was on a spectrum of politically unaware liberalism to cryptofascism to overt fascism in denial.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I used to/still do listen to a lot of folk and folk punk, and people would always be "oh you would like this band!" and it was always this, to quote Futurama, "Vaguely folkish alterna-rock". I never wanted to be mean and be like "look just because there's a banjo doesn't mean I would like it". but it was always really frustrating.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All these guys work at gourmet $20 burger joints now

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But they're not restaurants! They're a gastropub, or even an eatery.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They’re not restaurants anymore. They’re Gastropubs and Creameries with thirty dollar burgers (with “housemade aioli”) and six bucks for a scoop of (“organically-churned grass fed”) ice cream, it’s the worst food you’ve ever had, the cracker couple sitting next to you is bitching and moaning about the blacks stealing from Walgreens underneath the BLM sign, the crackers on the other side are discussing their VC ghoul fake money bullshit, conspicuously noted 10% “mandate surcharge” to try and turn you against laws forcing small business tyrants to pay a semblance of a fair wage, those obnoxious fucking plastic stools, gluten-free Frankenstein disgusting dish, five dollar juice served in a decapitated jar that’s impossible to drink out of and spiked with alcohol because fuck you that’s why, “farm to table” (as opposed to food that materialized out of thin air), “locally grown” (it’s imported from Africa after paying the locals half-cents on the dollar), “this is not a dish, it’s an EXPERIENCE”, local craft artisan IPA (they just fired the workers for striking), “~~vegetables~~ greens ~~meat~~ flesh ~~dessert~~ Apre-meal”, bottomless mimosas, ~~servers~~ treat delivery technician, everything is slathered in disgusting “truffle” oil, ~~mashed potatoes~~ potato pureéééé, here’s your bill better take out a loan to pay it, don’t forget the parking is $30 every 15 minutes.

Thank you for dining at Chrysanthemum & Millefuckelwanker located in the thriving SoCaGoMaGooGooGaGa district.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

styles are always overrated in their prime, despised immediately after their prime, and then longed for wistfully 2+ decades later. pattern-noticer gang is weary and opening their bibles to ecclesiastes.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

[loud sigh ] I was into Ecclesiastes before it was cool.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (13 children)

imagine dragons survived and it's doing worse shit than that

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I think this genre bugged me more than any other bad genre because I really liked the previous era of indie rock - early Arcade Fire, Broken Social Scene, Wolf Parade, Neutral Milk Hotel, Animal Collective, The Unicorns, Stars, Final Fantasy/Owen Pallett, The Microphones, ahhh, I'm getting powerful nostalgia just listing them out. Not that all these bands sounded similar to each other, but there was this weirdo/folko/p4k-zone that they all occupied that I found really moving and relatable, I think cause most of the people making it were depressed and anxious or otherwise mentally ill like me.

When all this stomp/clap "indie" bullshit started it felt like they took music I love, stripped everything interesting from it, and gave it to the rich kids with no problems that were often CAUSING me mental illness. It felt like some cruel ironic punishment from Greek mythos.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Itt: people realizing that they are entering the "this generation of music sucks" phase of their lives

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"this generation of music sucks"

I hated hair metal in the 80s when I was supposed to be really into it I-was-saying

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's be real: it was pretty fucking terrible.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I felt only vindication when I found out how many hair metal bands were full of kiddie creepers to match the lyrics of their songs. libertarian-alert

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This stuff was fine in small doses but it was everywhere and I got so tired of it so quickly. Ever since artists stopped being able to make money off album sales there's been a race to the bottom to make bland, palatable music so you can license it out to be in commercials, which means it just gets oversaturated in like a month.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Everyone's corny wedding pictures for over a decade now.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hated it when it came out but I've been going back to it recently.

The older you get the more you have nostalgia for different times. You don't only have nostalgia for your childhood. You'll have it for your teenage years, college, your 20s, etc. This music was big when I was in college so that's what it reminds me of.

I concede that it has nothing to do with the quality of the music.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

I concede that it has nothing to do with the quality of the music.

You're better than the vast majority, who confuse nostalgia with quality all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I definitely went through a period where I liked some of that music, but I can't stand to listen to any of it now. Probably the fastest 180 I've ever had towards an entire genre of music.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lol i was thinking about doing a halloween costume based around exposed suspenders, flop undercut, beard, and full sleeve tattoos. because that is 1000% NOT my look, but i could affect it quickly for maybe $20 in materials. it's sort of my thing to wear a costume that is obviously a costume, but also has like a dozen answers to "what are you dressed as?" and let people guess.

last year i wore a track suit, a flat cap. dyed my facial hair, and had a bunch of fake tattoos on my face, fingers, hands and neck. funniest guess was "post malone".

i got the idea one year because i dressed up as "anti fascist santa" and the libs always guessed i was "some kind of terrorist", which still makes me laugh.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

anti fascist santa

Not Santifa?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

WAKING UP
TO ASH AND DUST
I WIPE MY ASS
AND SLAP MUH NUTS

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That obnoxious hair-beard combo survived for longer. yes-chad

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All music is bad and haram

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Unironically the fastest way to destroy any Muslim internet space with infighting is to watch someone drop that one

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One of my friends still really likes this music

Mumford and sons, lumineers, x ambassadors, that type of garbage

So I guess there’s a market for it somewhere

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The actual name of the genre is Stomp and Holler, and I'll never forgive Spotify for lumping Bombadil in with these cretins.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

On one hand that shit sucks on the other hand without it high school me wouldn't have been sent down the rabbit hole into actual 60s folk revival and Pete Seeger and shit so who can say if it's good or bad.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

As seen on "Renegades," the song that X Ambassadors (only known for "Renegades") were paid by Jeep to make to promote the Jeep Renegade. It still pops in my head now and then because it's just the perfect example of corporate co-opting of the idea of nonconformity.

Also just a really shitty song.

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