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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Few people were willing to give up their slaves voluntarily. Fuck off.

I actually think this is an apt analogy. Slavery wasn't abolished because people magically realized it was wrong and "argued with ideas" in order to abolish it. Abolition only really became a movement after the mechanization from the Industrial Revolution made it possible to envision a society where production could continue along, even increase multi-fold, without the use of chattel slaves. Despite what you think of Aristotle, he was kind of right when he said that "when the looms spin by themselves, we'll have no need for slaves" (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Politics_(Aristotle)).

So carrying on the historical materialist analysis into the realm of animal liberation, it seems clear to me that no amount of convincing is going to change such a long standing practice like consuming meat unless there is a fundamental technological shift, not unlike how "liberals" in Britain and the North (USA) "suddenly realized" that "slavery was evil" only after their societies had started to industrialize. Only then did they "voluntarily" give up their slaves (and trade them in for factory workers, which is another topic altogether). It was the South (USA) that lagged behind because it still had a plantation based economy and thus held on to slavery. It couldn't keep up in terms of production during the Civil War precisely because its industrial base to produce things like munitions, rail lines, etc. was undercapitalized compared to factories in the North. I mean think about it, why did a practice that had been around for centuries, in every society, suddenly get viewed as morally evil? And precisely in those areas (Britain and the northern USA) where industrialization had already started to take off?

Anyways, long story short, I think that a technological shift in the base is required before there can be a change in the superstructure with respect to ending conventional slaughter of animals for meat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I see:

PR campaigns to try to "convince people with ideas" to change their ways is definitely more on the idealistic side.

Tech that fundamentally changes the means of production of a fundamental commodity in local, regional, national, and international markets seems more on the materialist side.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but the UK, where the mass media approach has been tried, has more than twice as many vegetarians per capita than the US.

I wonder how much of this is due to immigration from South Asia, where the rates of vegetarianism are higher.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

From what I remember she used to be critical of "SJWs" during the gamergate/2016 era but it seems like now she just makes random vids on cultural topics. So maybe she's still channeling some of that energy? I dunno, but the video itself seems to stand on its own after watching it myself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah but on the positive she did shit on Thought Slime, which is good cuz they suck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ugh bad take from her.

But the video is still pretty good though, would recommend checking it out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the vid she says "we the liberal soccdem leftists whatever you want to call this space online" (6:27 in the vid). Seems more like Breadtube or Breadtube-adjacent to me. Either way she's basically saying what I've seen people here on hexbear say and gets tons of upvotes for (i.e. the right talks to lonely young men, but the left either doesn't or does a terrible job at it).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I don't think so? The video was pretty good actually. She mentions, among other things, capitalism in general, housing affordability, lack of friendships, and all that other stuff in the video. I'd recommend checking it out. For what it's worth her youtube bio says:

comedic social commentary from a left wing populist POV. stick around if you like loud screeching and bad memes.

 

Jeremy Loffredo visits the scorched town of Lahaina, Hawaii and meets survivors of one of the worst mass casualty disasters on American soil in recent history. The mostly indigenous locals tell Loffredo why they believe the fires were no accident, and vent their rage at the wealthy developers and investment firms they view as a flock of vultures circling over the ruins of their community.

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They both had mustaches, cogito ergo sumus este:

THEY ARE BOTH FASCISTS!!

Take that logic bomb TANKIES smuglord

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They are just socialists on a more national, local level. So they're basically just like "grow and buy local" liberals that oppose the fascist Drumpf! To those red fascist tankies in the room, LEARN TO READ GERMAN you TANKIES! smuglord

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I didn't feel like getting into it but my god.... People are really buying in to the whole Bidenomics bullshit

 

Thinks that Thomas Sankara is an example of an "anti-authoritarian non-tankie" communist.

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Unironically what a lib-brainwormed blahaj/lemmy user would probably do and/or support... Go to another country like a white savior but actually make things worse for the local LGBTQ community...

 

I hope I don't get castrated for this by everyone here but I'm genuinely curious so I'm going to ask. For coxtext, I'm a dirty commie removed hippie dick suckin left wing lib (not a meme, I am literally a Liberal Democrat). Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to ask someone who disagrees with me why they think that supporting Ukraine is a bad move? The way I see it, the longer this war goes on, the weaker Russia gets. Sure it's costing the US (and other countries) a lot of money and resources but we are essentially weakining a not-so-friendly country of ours without having to send our own troops to fight it. Why is this a bad thing? Should I not care if Russia gets more powerful than it already is? Am I removed?

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