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[–] 235 points 2 years ago (6 children)

trump stole 500 million dollars from the state of ny... rapists spend less than a decade

this is a warning to poor people

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    [–] [S] 163 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I hope this case gets some attention too. This is some ginned up bullshit. We can’t let them stomp us into silence.

    I’m not celebrating a murder, this is some fucked up shit in many dimensions and I would prefer a different timeline.

    But remember we are not children who need to bow our heads and take our scolding.

    For-profit insurance companies are liable for the deaths they cause. Full stop.

    How’s that for moral clarity?

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    This is some ginned up bullshit.

    The "you're next" after referencing a high profile murder is what actually did it.

    Like, that's a credible threat. 15 years is fucking insane, and context is going to matter a lot. Did she just get denied cancer treatment for her 2 year old? Or told it's not insurance's fault doctors won't prescribe opioids? Or any of a million things in between.

    That's why we have trials, to find out all that stuff. And if it's a jury trial I feel juries would be sympathetic.

    The 100k is the real bullshit, but not owning guns doesn't mean much. It's insanely easy to buy a gun without a background check thru private seller loopholes.

    But our bond system is insane, because the it causes judges to inflate the amount 10x. If you can afford to put it up, you get it all back later. A bondsman you pay 10%, they put up 90%, and they get the whole 100% back. Your 10% is their profit. If a bondsman thinks that's a good risk, why does the court consistently over estimate the risk?

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    credible

    able to be believed; convincing

    Did anyone really think she was coming after them after that? No. She got heated on the phone and said something she shouldn't have.

    It's not nothing. What she did was wrong, and it's reasonable for it to be a crime. We don't want to always have to investigate or deal with constant threats. However, she was neither credible nor specific, which are two major criteria. (Keep that in mind when you're posting here, by the way.) She committed a crime, but not one that should be very serious.

    The way they've framed her is obscene.

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  • [–] [S] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Thanks for the insight on the typical terms of bonds. Good info.

    So eyes peeled on this one too I guess. They are making an example of her, I mean the judge plainly said so. We can’t let them get away with these excessive charges.

    I didn’t kill anyone and I never will. But I will be damned if I let this moment fade into the next news cycle.

    As a society, we are having the conversation about for-profit healthcare NOW!

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    [–] 101 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    She would have never been able to be charged before the patriot act. No weapons, no capacity to act on them, vague and unspecific. Its crazy how our freedoms have been eroded and how many folks seem to think thats just fine and dandy.

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    [–] 88 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I saw someone else say this, but I hope they start rounding up the incels on Twitter saying “your body, my choice” as credible rape threats if what this woman said is going to be litigated with such fervor.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Rape doesn’t take money from the rich and is therefore not a crime.

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  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Two wrongs don’t make a right. She could have said DDD without “you people are next.”

    Having said that, if we’re really judging people, and corporations are people, why isn’t the denial of health care seen as manslaughter? 70 people pass every day due to the lack of medical care in America. We have worse outcomes, shorter average life than other civilized countries.

    When is a corporation sued for murder & sent to jail? I know it sounds crazy, but that’s the point. These systems aren’t making sense. They lack humanity. This is a bad, morally bankrupt system. Older Americans loves their Medicare: that’s socialism.

    I’m so sick of this shit.

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    [–] 67 points 2 years ago

    She's a scapegoat. They arrested her to make a public example of her. Fuck those bastards, set her free.

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago

    When a woman calls the cops because her abusive SO threatened to kill her, they can't do anything about it.

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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    [–] 56 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    On the other hand when women complain about threats from stalkers the police do nothing. You might as well delete the word justice from this criminal justice system.

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Meanwhile customer service agents have been hearing much worse than this for decades, actual direct threats not vague comments, and no one ever gave a shit before.

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Of course not, but they're going to make an example out of her to deter the rest of the proles.

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    [–] 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    This reminds me of Minority Report. Arrested by the pre-crime unit.

    Guilty without the crime actually being committed.

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    We should erect a giant bronze statue of Luigi. Put it in a road right near UHC's headquarters in Minnesota. Make them all drive past it each and every day on the way to work.

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago

    She absolutely does not deserve that. Isn't America the home of free speech? I guess not for the plebs!

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago

    It's called wrong thinking from the book 1984

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    No, but they are going to throw the book at potential copycats to deincentivise others. First of many, I'm sure.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    So, don't make empty threats?

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    She was released and all charges dropped. This was a silly farce by the judge and prosecutors from the jump

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Prosecutors throw the book at people, sentences get reduced by dropping things, aclu better get on this and keep her from getting a stupid plea deal, and fight for free speech

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    Free slave for the state of Florida. I mean, they might let her go in a few months, but slam that 15 years jail stay bill right on her. You really effed up on the "land of the free" over there.

    That "when they came for the ..." had already happened. Years ago. Think on that. SL

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    Oh, I missed it it's f****** Florida. Anybody living in that state is taking their own life in their hands. No she does not deserve to have the book thrown at her but her likelihood of that happening is very high.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    No, the executives, BoD and major investors do.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    You know what? Everyone deserves freedom of speech, and threatening healthcare CEOs is not, in my opinion, a breach of it. There is a huge difference between threatening vulnerable minorities and threatening invulnerable minorities.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The US justice system is f'ed up.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    If Boston’s home is later found to have a bunch of disguises, a 3D-printed gun and a manifesto, I will, of course, eat my words and any hats that are available.

    Those items will magically appear if needed for them to make a case.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    Of course she doesn't, but the ruling class needs to make an example of someone - they're not about to let us peasants get away with defying them.

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