Every time this topic comes up I wonder how many computer systems this will break. Maybe we find out soon if this is really realized.
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I'd bet it actually simplifies as least as many things as it breaks. Basically all computers already keep track of time as a count of seconds since a UTC epoch anyway, and then do timezone conversions on top of that.
Well, in essence yes. But I have seen enough mishandling and homegrown stuff of custom date-time calculations that this could get interesting. I suspect that there are a lot of systems where the TZ database is never updated which at least will result in shifted displayed local time.
Also, it is fun to get data from old programs and also from userinput where the actual offset has to be guessed from the timezone. And if that conversion data is old, fun is had. It does not matter how time is represented internally in this case.
It wont be too bad. If you mean computers used commercially, Unix keeps a running total of seconds since the epoch and DST only affects whats displayed as time. Nothing will fundamentally change for these systems. In windows server products it wont be a problem, and some windows clients use an automatic patch process. Air gapped computers may have some hacky process around DST, but its a pretty solved problem.
There are probably hundreds of thousands of devices out there that are smart enough to know about time zones but old enough that there no chance of a software update, for example APC UPSs and power strips used in data centres world wide and years beyond end of support.
As long as they can get tzdata / Olsen db updates before the first change, there's usually no problem. But, I'm sure there are still devices out there using the OLD US switchover dates from the Bush era, because they have a different, possibly "hard-coded" rule set.
The far-right former brasilien president did the same
Great policy. Misogynistic, racists, liar will say anything for attention, tho.
I don't know who chose that headlining image of him pointing (and looking) at the sun, but it's perfect.
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This is one policy I would like to see followed through with.
To be specific, we make it such that the current daylight savings time is the norm.
This was on the docket to be voted on in 2023 (i think, could have been 2022) and it never made it to the floor. Why? His cronies. They just let it fall by the side, probably so they could do it now. I’m so sick and tired of this shit show if a govt. Failed fucking state.
This needs to be top comment. So many little things he does that sane people like are just things Republicans blocked until they could be the ones to do the thing.
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Will y'all shut the fuck up and act like you don't want this? You're going to ruin it.
We absolutely need to start protesting this so he makes it a priority.
This is literally how to shape his entire presidency and keep him from completely destroying the country. This move right here, every time.
Let’s make a list of things and how to complain and stick to the script.
I’ll go first. Man, I love tariffs!
The only way that Democrats will eventually come out on top here is massive tariffs. We have to get the word out and thank Donald Trump for his concept of a plan on tariffs.
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To avoid confusion, all of the US will be on DTT (Donald Trump Time), which will vary based on where he currently is.
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I want it to stay sprung forward, can't remember if that's DST or non. I feel like I'm in the minority, but fuck if I care if it's dark in the morning I want sunlight for longer once I'm done working...
DST is sprung forward. It happens in the summer. Standard time is what the northern hemisphere is on now in the winter.
Fun fact. In the winter the sun is pretty close to its highest at Noon but I the summer that happens at 1:00 pm.
I suppose it makes some difference how far East to West you are in your timezone too, but this time of year I'm dark on my way to work and dark on my way home, if we were still in DST I'd have an hour of sunlight still after work. It's only about 6 weeks that are that extreme for me but I'd still prefer DST. And I love the long summer nights when it's light until almost 10 lol
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Well, good.
He was quoted out of context. He wants to separately eliminate daylight, savings, and time.
Works on contingency? No, money down!
Seeing a lot of talk on here about keeping Standard or DST.
Oh my God for the love of all that's holy just let them pick one!
I don't care if the sun comes up at 2:00am or 2:00pm or even if the sun fuckin' sets at 12:00 noon. Just pick a time and stick with it. Holy shitsnax.
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“Oh, yum! I found a chocolate chip in this bucket of catshit that the ruling class is shoveling down my throat!”
In other news, RFK has recommended extending this to eliminate both daylight and time.
If I remember correctly, the issue last time is that they wanted us on permanent Daylight Savings Time, instead of Standard Time. So I expect Trump to force the U.S. onto permanent DST, just because all science says it would be worse for us than going to Standard.
Fuck that. Clock noon and solar noon need to diverge less, not more.
Science says it’s better to have day light in the morning and dark at night
But people aren’t waking up at 5am and going to bed at 5pm so it really doesn’t enforce standard time
I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I want permanent DST. I want it to be light when I get home so I can spend some time outside without a flashlight. I don't care if it's dark in the morning, I'm working. Don't tell me to just work different hours, I already work 6am-3pm, which is the earliest I'm allowed at my current job, and a lot earlier than allowed by many jobs. I still only get about an hour before dark where I live.
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Fuck, I hate it when he's right.
We need to keep daylight savings and eliminate standard time. We're on standard time right now. I hate it getting dark at 5pm.
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I mean, I have no great love for DST, but I have no faith that they can do anything but completely fuck it up somehow. Whatever results will be at best, no measurable improvement, but at least a monumental pain in the ass for those who have to do the work to keep shit on schedule during the morass.
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Lol trump doing something i actually support
God I hope he doesn’t ruin this long overdue improvement.
Aotus says a lot of things including how he would like to bang his daughter.
They say even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time.
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