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Summary

Trump’s team is considering abolishing key banking regulators, including the FDIC and OCC, with plans to consolidate their functions under the Treasury Department.

Critics warn this could undermine public trust in banking, weaken deposit insurance protections, and risk another financial crisis.

The FDIC, established during the Great Depression, played a crucial role in managing the 2023 banking crisis.

Trump allies, backed by financial industry donors, are also targeting other consumer protections, reflecting sweeping deregulatory ambitions tied to Project 2025’s proposals.

Experts fear these moves could destabilize the economy.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The 2020's are looking to end like the 1920's.

Not a recession, but a massive depression.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Except, considering how globalized the world economy is today, it would cause a complete total economic collapse on a global scale. You thought the great depression in the 1920s was bad? You have no idea how bad it can really get.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not just economic globalization, but the global ecosystem's food chains are already starting to collapse thanks to climate change, and our factory farming systems are becoming increasingly prone to virulent diseases wiping out huge crops of both plants and animals. I wonder what happens when food prices skyrocket because half our food supply has been contaminated, and at the same time inflation explodes thanks to plain ol' financial mismanagement

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

The 1920s depression was infamously global.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

massive depression

Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ahead of the curve on this one.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

It's gonna be baaaaad.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump (2 weeks after everything all the experts said would happen happens): Noun one knew how complicated banking is... my uncle, the MIT professor; huege brain was surprised this happened. An MIT professor didn't think this could happen; speaking of things that happen, Batron... where is Batron? Where is, possibly, my "favorite" son? The crypto visionary. Let me tell you about the importance of crypto. Did you know this stuff is mined? Like from the earth? More valuable than water it is. Looking to back the usd by crypto and then by water. It's free it just drops from the sky like "Bing, Bing Bing bing" might as well as be kaching!!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

I fucking hate that what you wrote could be credibly said by him. I mean except how eloquently you put it lol

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Wasn't lack of regulation what caused the 2008 recession?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And supply-side-God willing, we can get back to there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Look, some of us are going to make the sacrifice to supply-side-God. We gotta do everything to help the rich get richer. Cause fuck us plebs.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes but American voters don't give a shit.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They don't care if they tank the dollar, it will make the assets in the Strategic Dogecoin Reserve that much more valuable.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the plan is to actively tank the dollar

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (11 children)

The question is, how do you bet against the US Economy and for whatever selfish fuckhead of a plan they have.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As the person said below, move your currency out of the US dollar into something like gold or buy a house with a 30-year mortgage because you are basically shorting the dollar for a hard, tangible asset.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well look, I'm not advocating for this coming government nor am I an economic expert. But in a vacuum one could impose tariffs on imported goods, tank the cost of labor in your own country, and force manufacturing back here, right? And in the long run, would be beneficial for local manufacturing instead of being so dependent on China. If it weren't for the local oligarchy here I'd say it's even a tough but fair plan for the economy. Knowing what we know, things will only get harder with no observable benefit for the working class as whatever improvement we manage to make will be sucked away by the ruling class. But the plan isn't horseshit in a vacuum. Someone please feel free to tell me why I'm completely wrong as I'm not really speaking with too much conviction tbh

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And in the long run, would be beneficial for local manufacturing instead of being so dependent on China....Knowing what we know, things will only get harder with no observable benefit for the working class

...and...

Someone please feel free to tell me why I’m completely wrong as I’m not really speaking with too much conviction tbh

Those tariffs would destroy our $1.95 trillion in exports from the USA because many of those are finished goods with input materials imported (and now tariffed to high heaven). source

Modern manufacturing doesn't depend on hundreds of thousands of human bodies anymore. New manufacturing factories would be highly automated and only employ a tiny fraction of the now unemployed workforce to produce the same amount of goods as in years past.

"From 1960 to today, American steel mills have decreased from an average of 700,000 workers to just 83,000. And within the last 40 years, the productivity of labor has increased more than five times from approximately 10 man-hours per finished ton to under 2." source

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Not gonna lie. If the FDIC goes, I withdraw immediately.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't a whole silicon valley bank just wipe out its customers savings by not being fdic insured

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonmoore/2023/03/12/why-deposit-insurance-didnt-help-silicon-valley-bank/

Apparently not. They managed to set themselves up in such a way that caused the failure, but the majority of depositors had over the $250,000 cap on FDIC insured assets.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

That's not a recession. That's a depression

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

2029 looking a lot like 1929.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Just where the fuck will people do their banking without FDIC?

I saw that asshat Andreesen lying his fucking ass off on Rogan about how the poor little tweedums on the right were being "debanked" because of "free speech", but not anyone else.

Meanwhile, what the hell would you call something like this?

The right has people within it that are just so insane that I really do think some would withdrawal their money from the bank, and set all their own cash on fire if they thought it would pwn teh libz.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A MAGAt would eat his own shit if he knew a WoKe LibRuL would have to smell it

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Places like cash app and venmo... where you can have predation turned up to 11.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Credit unions use the NCUA instead of FDIC. So if they don't go after that as well there are still some options.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I would just avoid ALL US banks. Canada has CDIC and our future Trumpian PM hasn't been paid yet to kill it.

US stores don't care where the money comes from so that could be an option.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

And of course, his pick for secretary of the treasury who would oversee all regulations of the stock market is a hedge fund billionaire 🤦🤬

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Should I start stuffing my money under my mattress right now?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If rapid inflation occurs, then no (invest in non-monetary assets). If a bank run occurs then yes. Both could definitely happen if they can't manage to cut trillions of dollars of spending but further cut corporate taxes while deregulating banks and consumer protections. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Jesus fucking Christ on a stick CAN WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE YEAR WHERE THERE ISN'T SOME MAJOR FIXKING BULLSHIT. 😡

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Destabilize?

No, this is far worse. Big banks will just take your money. Credit Unions? I have no fucking idea.

I also can't just walk into my bank and pull out $10k without raising all sorts of questions and concerns.

Jesus fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Looks like a bank run is back on the menu, bois!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can walk into a bank and get approved to a loan with payments equal to 70% of my income. Regulations are already criminally absent.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Might as well take a gamble and put all my money in bitcoin if it’s not FDIC insured

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There was a 2023 banking crisis?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Some Silicon Valley investor bank failed IIRC, there were a couple of bank runs?

Lot of shit happened last year, I barely remember.

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