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[–] [email protected] 476 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Here's the article summary:

"One time, Brian worked in a field. Luigi on the other hand, had rich parents, just like Osama Bin Laden."

I fucking wish I was joking.

[–] [email protected] 189 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I laughed out loud at this.

An alternate opinion column could be: "One time, Adolf was an aspiring artist. Winston on the other hand, had rich parents, just like Osama Bin Laden."

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Winston Churchill was a genuinely awful human being and a war criminal prior to WWII.

He lucked out by also being a moderately competent wartime leader, who gets to be juxtaposed against Hitler for eternity.

Also, Brett Stephens is a bed bug and has a terrible track record of properly handling public backlash to his writing. I hope dark days are ahead for him.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Holy fucking shit. Imagine writing this out and thinking it’s a good thing to publish. What an idiot. What a buffoon. What an absolute bitch boy cuck ass moron.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago

"Oh God, the poor are uniting! Quick, we need to stir up some division"

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[–] [email protected] 343 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Here's the article, for anyone interested.

It basically boils down to: Brian Thompson grew up in a working class family in Iowa, while Luigi Mangione came from wealth and went to private schools. He compares Mangione to Osama bin Laden, and other "Angry rich kids jacked up on radical, nihilistic philosophies," who "cause a lot of harm, not least to the working-class folks whose interests they pretend to champion."

The author then mentions some polling that says people like their health insurance provider, actually. And then finally he says this:

Thompson’s life may have been cut brutally short, but it will remain a model for how a talented and determined man from humble roots can still rise to the top of corporate life without the benefit of rich parents and an Ivy League degree.

Without a stitch of irony. Thompson may have come from working class roots, but that ain't where he ended up. So if it's ok to become rich, but it's not ok to be born rich, then I guess this author supports a 100% inherence tax? Yeah, somehow I doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 191 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The fact that he came from working class roots and chose to become a massive piece of shit makes him even worse than someone who was born into privilege.

[–] [email protected] 154 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Likewise, Luigi Mangione came from a background of privilege, yet gave it all up in the fight for the rights of all Americans.

Turns out you can be born into the working class and still be a piece of shit, and you can be born well off and still be a decent person.

The people writing these opinion pieces should be thrilled to hear that there is still hope for their children.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Likewise, Luigi Mangione came from a background of privilege, yet gave it all up in the fight for the rights of all Americans.

That's very true. Mangione sacrificed his upper class life to fight back against the system, whereas Thompson used the opportunities afforded him by the system to enrich himself at the expense of others.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (4 children)

People aren't responsible for how they're born. Being born into a family that's benefitted from human suffering is out of their control.

Choosing to harm people in order to join a class of societal leeches is different.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago

Came from working class roots...and then decided that those same people get to die so he can make a buck.

Insurance companies are run by sociopaths

I don't give a fuck where someone came from, only where they CHOSE to end up.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Just cancelled my subscription, absolutely disgusting seeing this on the front page. Is there any publication left not bought and paid for by our corporate overlords?

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Bret Stephens, the author, is not telling the whole story and using the omissions to spin a story of 'most Americans are happy with the system.' This [expletive] says the below to defend against the united anger at the health insurance industry

As for the suggestion that Thompson’s murder should be an occasion to discuss America’s supposed rage at private health insurers, it’s worth pointing out that a 2023 survey from the nonpartisan health policy research institute KFF found that 81 percent of insured adults gave their health insurance plans a rating of “excellent” or “good.” Even a majority of those who say their health is “fair” or “poor” still broadly like their health insurance. No industry is perfect — nor is any health care model — and insurance companies make terrible calls all the time in the interest of cost savings. But the idea that those companies represent a unique evil in American life is divorced from the experience of most of their customers.

This [expletive] looked at the report's top and only positive point and ignored the rest. The next very next point is

  • Despite rating their insurance positively, most insured adults report experiencing problems using their health coverage; people in poorer health are more likely to report problems. A majority of insured adults (58%) say they have experienced a problem using their health insurance in the past 12 months – such as denied claims, provider network problems, and pre-authorization problems.

Here are the other points on the report:

  • Nearly half of insured adults who had insurance problems were unable to satisfactorily resolve them, with some reporting serious consequences. Half of consumers with insurance problems say their problem was resolved to their satisfaction.
  • Affordability of premiums and out-of-pocket costs are a concern, particularly for those with private health coverage, and for some, contributed to not getting care. About half of adults with Marketplace plans (55%) or ESI (46%) rate their insurance negatively when it comes to premiums, compared to 27% of people with Medicare and 10% of Medicaid enrollees. Four-in-ten insured adults say they skipped or delayed some type of care in the past year due to cost. One in six insured adults (16%), including larger shares of those at lower income levels, say they had problems paying medical bills in the past year.
  • Insured adults overwhelmingly support public policies to make insurance simpler to understand and to help them avoid or resolve insurance problems. About nine in ten say they support requirements on insurers to maintain accurate and up-to-date provider directories, provide simpler, easier-to read EOBs, disclose their claims denial rates to regulators and the public, and provide in advance, upon request, information about whether care is covered and their out-of-pocket cost liability.

[Expletive] this disingenuously written story, [expletive] Bret Stephen for not telling the whole story, and [expletive] the New York Times for time after time publishing BS and propaganda that sets us all back.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Your nanny state instance admins redact naughty words to "[expletive]" before it federates out. It's pretty funny when you use it a bunch of times to help get your anger across.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Luigi murdered one person.

Brian murdered thousands.

That's all you need to know to compare the two.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would LOVE to hear what bootlicking bullshit argument this dude crafted.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago

Don't give them the clicks.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The author, Bret Stephens, inherited his fortune from a chemical company his parents built. Just for context as to why he defends a sleezy multi-millionaire

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If he’s such a hero, why is everyone happy he’s dead?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Angry rich kids jacked up on radical, nihilistic philosophies can cause a lot of harm, not least to the working-class folks whose interests they pretend to champion.

Or angry, greedy rich people jacked up on conservatism.

I was hoping it was going to be a satire OpEd, but nope. Mangione is just a disaffected radical rich kid he compares to Bin Laden and other terrorists who came from well-off families. The writer stops at Thompson’s early normal life and completely disregards the health insurance industry’s problems, which Thompson’s company was a major contributor, claims people are mostly happy with their insurance while the study has no “would you prefer to pay less and get the same service for single-payer care” option. It’s basically “do you like your expensive care you have little/no choice about?”

Dude wrote an anti-populist article to be inflammatory and told people to shut up because they like their insurance overlords.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

If both are class traitors than I support the one who didn't betray my class. But also engineers and tech workers are still working class and nowhere near CEO level.

I'm an engineer who went to private schools and came from a family of engineers. Doesn't mean I've never been homeless, doesn't mean my family wasn't financially fucked by health insurance. The middle class aren't ceo level even when we're a shrinking class

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The New York Times has been pure shit since the W years when they pushed Iraq war propaganda.

Trump is an evil moron, but he's right about one thing, our media is full of shills and liars.

The crazy part is they are lying and shilling for the right, while being called "leftist", it's a fantastic lie that has been propagated.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This ought to have been apparent 20 years ago. Anybody else remember Judith Miller and her little pas de deux with Dick Cheney, where his office would "leak" phony intelligence about Iraq's WMD program to her, she'd publish it in her New York Times column, and then the Bushies could cite it as evidence? Pepperidge Farm also remembers the non-apology apology the editor published (buried well off the front page) that conspicuously missed anything about not letting the paper be used as a mouthpiece for the state in the future.

The only reason that it ever had a progressive reputation is because the GOP/Tea Party kept shrieking about "liberal media" to move the Overton Window to the far right.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

NYT hasn’t been progressive for a long time. It’s just taken a while for everyone to notice.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago

Right now they have an article for the case against vigilantism. Fucking hell qualified immunity is state based vigilantism.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Bret Stephens is, surprise, a sniveling neocon.

He can get fucked.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago

I noted it in another thread, but this is the tale of two class traitors. These guys are extremely threatened and confused as to why one of the good class traitors (the CEO that went from working class to killing workers for profit) is reviled while the bad class traitor (a rich kid murdering that CEO) is lauded. Obviously from their perspective it should be the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

These dumbfucks are too high on their own self righteousness to see the lasting damage they are causing not only to their own institutions, but the country. Absolutely GLAZING the CEO whilst completely omitting the insider trading charges leveled at him, and ignoring any and all context of UHC’s denial rates whilst pumping ’consumer satisfaction’ surveys as if health insurance is fine and dandy.

When the fourth branch flips over for belly rubs from the state, people see the base corruption and abandon mainstream media - and turn to alternatives. Twitter, Facebook, Telegram, etc where foreign influence propaganda and misinformation has no gatekeepers.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

LOL it says all it needs to say that this guy felt that this article needed to be written, in order to spin reality into something it's not

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