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Sure, there are always outliers and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's just the overall impression I have.

(I wasn't sure if [email protected] or this community would fit better for this kind of question, but I assume it fits here.)

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'm here because I DON'T want to have to read fucked up opinions. People here are mostly nice compared to mainstream platforms.

I'm all for difference of opinion, but not when one of those opinions is "we should oppress LGBT people" for example. 10-15 years ago, I'd have been more receptive to discussing opposing opinions, but shit has changed. A lot of those opposing opinions are now simply unacceptable to even entertain, because they've become a real, actual threat to my well-being. People aren't discussing tax policy anymore, they are discussing imposing states of emergency to do some kind of purge on undesirables.

Some people call it an echo chamber, I just call it chilling and having fun with like-minded people. There's nothing wrong with that. That's what forums have always been.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (7 children)

People here are mostly nice compared to mainstream platforms.

Try disagreeing with the hive mind. Anyone can be nice to someone who echo's their own opinion. The real niceness of a person is revealed when they can show civility to people they disagree with (I'm not talking about LGBTQ oppressors or Nazis......there's a huge spectrum of opinions that aren't extreme).

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'm on BlueSky on top of IceShrimp because anything better than Twitter is good to use at this point.

Let's see how downvoted I get.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah, I don't think anyone would ask you "Are you okay with sitting at the bar with nazis?" yet plenty will happily judge you for saying "I'd rather not have to deal with MAGAts and their opinions"

Sorry but if your opinion is "trans people aren't people" or "blacks need to know their place" then your opinion is shit and no the fuck I don't have to listen to it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I agree, which is why I recently kicked a MAGA guy out of my D&D group that meets at my house. I had tolerated him up to then because he generally acted decent and was a good player. But after the election I decided I just don't feel like extending my hospitality to that anymore.

But on the flip side when I hear a phrase like, "uncomfortable with trans people" my first reaction is, "What makes you uncomfortable?" instead of, "Fuck you you fucking bigoted fuck!" For that moral imperfection in my character I've received name-calling and at least one ban. Whatever. People have irrational fears and I'm not going to exile them to the desert because their "eww" reflex isn't pristine.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (24 children)

Normally I'd say it was a weakness but the right has significantly departed from reality in most countries for way too long now. It's incredibly rare to find a right-winger who can be present in a discussion without spewing a whole lot of vile conspiracy hate fascist bullshit.

So I find their absence refreshing, desirable and a strength of Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I find the same on the left wing. Everytime I put out a slightly right wing position I get attacked and a ton of down votes.

Every time anyone mentions on Lemmy right wing positions it is with only to attack a strawman version that is very removed from what most right wing people think/do.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (26 children)

Downvotes can't actually hurt you.

Personally, I'm fine with saying unpopular things and getting downvoted for it. Mods removing a disallowed viewpoint is something different.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (30 children)

I don't care so much about the range of political views, just the quantity of them.

Too many people on Lemmy make their political ideology their entire identity, and it's just freaking exhausting.

Can we not just be people talking to other people about cool stuff? I just get sick of political ideologies masquerading as people.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (24 children)

Mostly mixed. The way i think it's a weakness is because I'm an anti authoritarian leftist, and i'd like a stronger anarchist/libertarian community on lemmy. Despite hexbear/lemmygrad/lemmy thriving, Solarpunk and dbzer0 feel a little lacking community wise. I'd also like a diverse political community, in general.

Another con is that if you even just disagree with a [bastard] moderator, they'll immediately ban you. Happens on lemmy.world with being anti-zionist, happens on lemmy.ml under the guise of 'rule 1' for literally just criticizing a mod such as dessalines.

But i also think it's a pro due to the lack of far-right content on lemmy. I remember on reddit casually seeing disgusting content, such as blatant racism (Such as arabs being called sand n-rs, Or racism against asians/immigrants in general on r/canada + r/europe) and most of that is obscure on lemmy.

I'm not denying that the Lemmy community doesn't have problems, Lord no. But it's much better than most other platforms.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Haha ML loves to ban you for even the slightest challenge of their views.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Echo chambers are never good, no matter the politics. Just reading this comment thread is proof. Some of these comments are fucking ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a weakness in the sense that there are times this place turns into a straight-up echo chamber...

But when there is actual debate going on, it tends to be a lot more civil than on other sites (most of the time)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's primarily, but not exclusively, a strength. "We need more right-wing posters" is not something I've ever thought of Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For attracting new users, the extreme views of the majority of users on this platform are detrimental. I personally very much dislike how one-sided all platforms are now. They lean heavily to one side or the other, which isn't an accurate representation of the world. Most people are somewhere in the middle, yet online they're expected to behave according to the platform's presiding mindset or be shouted down.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I find the limited political knowledge a far bigger concern. The US has taken perfectly acceptable words and butchered them: liberal, libertarian, conservative, left, fascist, socialist etc mean different things inside the US to what they mean everywhere else. I reckon US political language hasn’t butchered itself - there’s a plan in there somewhere.

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