PhilipTheBucket

Just let him have the food, you monster.

This seems fishy in a couple of different ways.

I looked at https://results.arizona.vote/#/federal/47/0 and compared with what this guy is saying, and:

• He says 123K would have switched the results to Harris, but Trump won AZ by 186K votes.
• He says there were 123K bullet ballots for Trump, but I see 3,367,122 votes for president, and 3,326,283 votes for US senator, a difference of only 41k, around 1%.

There are other sketchy things about it. He lists his qualifications as "I have worked as the CEO or CTO at seven high technology firms including two which specialized in hacking and counter-hacking operations." That, to me, is a suspiciously high number, and it's weird that he doesn't name them, and hasn't talked with his presumably extensive contacts from running those companies to get some other people on board to co-sign the letter. Usually that's how these things run if they are not BS. Not just listing the number of companies he's been CEO of.

His speculation about how the hack could have happened, and its connection with Elon Musk's lottery and the bomb threats, is wildly sketchy to me. Usually in my experience, serious security people are very cautious about laying out too many details when they talk about how it "could have been done" and they try to keep irrelevant speculation out of it, even if it's in their mind, until they have some reasonable confirmation for it. If anomalies in the numbers of votes were enough, he'd have stuck with the numbers and linked to his sources for them. Likewise his speculation about how law enforcement could nab the programmers involved and compel them to testify is totally wrong, I think.

I don't know for sure, since I'm just reading it and reacting to it, but it seems to raise multiple types of red flags to me.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE2D47175FC04ECBD

Radioactive materials really are the closest thing we have to ancient demons.

They can give you unlimited power, but it's always an uneasy bargain. They must be contained in special places where no human can go, and the people tasked with keeping them sealed must be vigilant, with never a moment's careless inattention, or they might get loose.

If anything ever goes wrong, they wreak havoc. And afterwards, that place is cursed beyond repair. No one can look upon it. No one can go there. If they do, they will die in horrible ways, with no hope of salvation. Machines that try to trespass will break. Film cannot develop, or is ruined. They must simply be left in the tomb, alone and undisturbed, forever.

That one grainy photo of the elephant's foot is absolutely chilling to me, like a monster from another world lurking silently underground.

You can also bargain with them to destroy the cities of your enemies. There is no limit to the power. Whole continents laid waste, simply by the right type of priesthood making the right incantations. But for almost a century, no one has dared to do it, because of what might come.

If anyone’s curious, it takes GM 2.6 minutes to make $500k of gross income.

They didn't say that, no. This guy tried to hedge it a little bit, by saying that Trump was much worse but stopping short of saying that people should vote for Harris as a result.

Some of his other cofounders, as of election day, were still saying people should leave the line blank or vote for Jill Stein. She got almost as many votes as Harris did, in Dearborn, and Trump picked up something like 20% more votes than he had in 2020.

I’m not interested in echoing our points at each other indefinitely.

I’m sure she would have gained some number of “uncommitted” voters by verbally coming out against Israel’s actions. I’m saying there are other voters she would have lost.

I keep acknowledging that Biden deserves blame for his horrible Israel policy. You keep insisting that that represents “division” and “blaming,” because I’m not willing to also assign the exact same blame to Kamala Harris, exclusively, and hold the voters completely blameless on their side.

This will be my last message on the topic, since you seem to want to keep repeating your same arguments. I just wanted to clear up those two points.

Blame can be shared.

I can blame Biden for committing a crime against humanity by arming Israel, instead of doing the human thing and letting the electoral chips fall where they may. I'm not convinced it would have been the winning strategy in the election that you think it would have been, since there are a lot of voters in the US who are perfectly comfortable with killing Palestinians because they don't really understand what the nature of the conflict is, and would see any arms embargo as betrayal of Israel in their time of need after suffering a horrific attack.

I can also apportion some blame to the voters who doomed Palestine, I think irrevocably, by letting Trump get elected. They can all be responsible for what's about to unfold.

I'm definitely blaming the people who organized the "uncommitted" movement. That's different from the voters. I keep saying the first one, and you keep bringing it back to the second one. This particular example of one person who's personally responsible for pursuing and advocating a counterproductive strategy which will hurt the Palestinians, yes, I can definitely blame.

Alawieh was at least saying Trump would be worse, by the end of the campaign, but there were other co-founders who weren't even saying that, who were recommending leaving the line blank or voting for Jill Stein. Well, they got their wish! Kamala didn't win. Now, probably millions of people are going to die because of it. It's not a game.

The uncommitted movement was at least 1.5 million people in the general election, enough to win the swing states but not enough to explain the 10-20 million Americans that were not convinced by Harris’ Campaign to go out of their way to vote. That shows that there were many other issues with her campaign. She did not address the material needs of the working class, she ran to the right on immigration and American Jingoism, and ran another neoliberal platform of ‘nothing will fundamentally change’ when people are angry at our failing institutions and desperate for change.

If I have cancer, and the doctor tells me about a treatment but isn't persuasive enough about it, and I ignore them, and now I'm going to die, is that the doctor's fault?

You're holding Kamala responsible for three decades of Democrats ignoring the working class, and for Biden's policies, and for a huge amount of misinformation attacking her about the economy or whatever to people who then bought it. Okay, sure. If she had been more persuasive or had better messaging, it might have helped. That doesn't change the fact that if people had voted differently, that definitely would have helped.

To me, that's the killer flaw of these things.

It would be great if they were designed from the ground up to be good machines for running models, say with a GPU that had a copious amount of memory that didn't cost $1,500 for an add-on. Unfortunately, to do that they'd have to create something from nothing, so instead they've added something that is worse than most GPUs, added some dumb software which is designed to pair with the ultimate result of disappointing people, and called it a day.

Blaming voters is just sowing division when we need unity and solidarity to fight against Fascism.

Nothing anywhere in these comments was blaming voters. I was blaming the people who organized a whole campaign specifically to sow division and interfere with support for the only possible alternative, in this election, to full-on fascism.

I also think it’s partly the voters’ fault, in addition to being partly Biden’s fault. But I was pointing out voting numbers to argue for how effectively this particular campaign had sowed division, not to say it’s exclusively their fault.

Also, aren’t you a Stalin person anyway? Shouldn’t you be happy about the collapse of the US’s effectiveness to influence events in the world? Or is the nick meant to be ironic or edgelordy?

My point is that if the child isn’t vaccinated, and then dies of whooping cough, the uncle who put together a whole organized program to educate the family about the dangers of vaccines bears a lot responsibility for the tragedy.

Yes, even more so than the pharmaceutical companies who lost the people’s trust through their actions.

It would still be a heartbreaking loss if it was just Palestine that’s going to be lost. But the scale of the global tragedy is going to be much greater than just this man’s country. He’s helped to doom, not just his own family, but millions of other people’s families who weren’t even involved.

It is hypocritical for him to say that costing Biden votes is “campaigning for Gaza,” then translate that over into costing Kamala Harris votes even though she’s not the one who’s been making these genocide-friendly decisions, then suddenly be panicked that Trump is clearly going to make things quite a bit worse and it may be the total end of his country and his ethnicity on the planet. That was the totally predictable result of his method of “campaigning for Gaza,” and many, many people told him that, and got accused of being pro-genocide shills for the Democrats.

If his movement had campaigned for Gaza in pretty much any other way, or if he had come out and admitted now that they fucked up and asked for help in pressuring the Trump administration or the global community, this wouldn’t be posted here.