chapotraphouse

Even if you took that as factual concern it's obviously a bullshit defence because;

A) if you require that many make work jobs then it's more productive to have them work in some other administrative department or even just sweep the streets than in a role that only destroys wealth, keeps people sick (and unworking if you only care about employment stats), or kills them

B) the fucking companies outsourced most of those jobs first and now use AI anyway, so you didn't save shit

What are we going to do with those 3 million people? Well most of them will probably start working for the single payer system that is going to require a lot of people to run as smooth as possible.

IT WOULD BE MORE ECONOMICALLY BENEFICIAL TO PAY THEM TO DO NOTHING THAN FOR THEM TO CONTINUE IN INSURANCE

oooh we can't switch to solar, what about all the JOBS in coal and petrol?????

PAY THEM TO NOT WORK IN COAL OR PETROL

like fuck you have the money printer for the global standard currency, don't act like it's somehow impossible when it's a pittance compared to billions the pentagon looses when the wallet they all share goes through the washing machine. You can even do your precious means testing to make sure it's actually going to someone who's worked in insurance or coal mining or whatever for more than a year

Every single public outcry for social progress is treated like some childish, naive demand for an undeserved treat. I wonder if he bothered to consider that a one time event of a million or so people losing their jobs is a much smaller catastrophe than the cumulative immiseration and murder perpetuated by allowing the health insurance industry to continue existing.

Where are we going to put the people working for the baby killing machine???! Won’t ANYONE think of baby killing machine industry employment??V

I think it was who said "Medicare for all who want it" that's my generations version of this line I feel.

“Look I know I promised you lasagna but you can’t expect me to make that. I’d have to go out and harvest grain, mill it into flour, create the dough, press the noodles, cook them, and all that before we even get to the cheese and meat! Anyway, here’s some ketchup and raw spaghetti, you’re welcome.”

3 million jobs of people who are working at Blue Cross Blue Shield or Kaiser or other places. What are we doing with them?

How about the ?

i mean that was always his pitch for the rich i guess, like a reagan that didn't need a hand up its ass the whole time

all I ever wanted to do in this life was push paperwork for a capital formation so it could accumulate more wealth by denying people coverage they paid for.

and Obama sees me and cares about me, the little guy in a bureaucratic, kafka-esque nightmare fueled by death and pain.

How come we don't have

:obama-drink

Name a greater top 10 anime betrayal than that

Put them to work building public housing, fixing streets, public transit drivers, post office always has only one or two overworked people at the counter, installing road calming devices to prevent child death/ encourage biking/

Shit have em read to seniors at the old folks home or kiddos in the PICU

ANYTHING ELSE BUT GIVING INSURANCE A WORK FORCE

But what about the employees of the baby crushing machine, huh? Ever think about them?

Oh sure, NOW make-work jobs are important!

How about let’s continue that attitude and make sure porky is required to make a whole bunch of entry-level jobs. Sure, it’s inefficient but these are people’s JOBS!

If contributors paid e.g. $2,000/year instead of $10,000, the 'spare' $8,000 doesn't disappear, it gets spent elsewhere, driving employment, potentially in less parasitic industries. This is before we get to the fact that the example $2k/each more than pays for those 3 million jobs because you've taken out the parasite that takes the $8k for themselves. So in fact, you don't lose 3 million jobs but keep those and still have the extra employment or increased wages and allow for some of it to be slurped up as profit from the spare $8k.

Obama:

I don't think ~~in ideological terms~~…

talks about this as the smoking gun for bullshit jobs and honestly, every time I see it it's like, yeah, you're right.

There's genuinely a lot of people working those overhead fake jobs, I remember Bernie didn't talk a lot about that which if you're uncharitable means he wasn't serious about doing single payer, and if you are charitable he means he recognized it as a huge political problem that there was more benefit in ignoring until you actually got the power to do something about it.

Basically "I'm not gonna talk about how so many of you will need to get real jobs, with my help of course, until I actually can do something about it"

Wouldn't at least some of those jobs be replaced by roles in the new "national health administration" or whatever we'd call it? Besides that, someone should show Obama a trolley meme. Liberals love that, apparently.

Oh I have a few ideas...