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Thanks @[email protected] for sharing the person’s profile in the other thread

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

what no theory does to a mf

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Materially done more than most online MLs tho to be fair

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

He's not throwing away his shot

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

The right has done more this year than the left has on decades. The first trump shooter. Arguably the second trump bush guy. And now the adjuster.

Pretty pathetic

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Subscribing to a grounded theory is banned in Ivy League schools. Prove you are a genius and invent your own theory!

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Forget the brainworms.

The only thing that matters is working class vs ruling class.

Brainworms can be solved if you can first get people on working class vs ruling class. You have them listening to prole agitators instead of the bourgeoise. The brainworms were injected by the fact they've been listening to the bourgeoise in the first place, once you get them away from that and into a communist sphere of influence you can melt them away.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with you completely. It’s clear he gives a shit about the greater good even if his analysis sucks. The latter can be fixed. Well not in this guy’s case — he’s fucked.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah my point is not so much about this guy but how discussion about this guy can be channeled. Not just this guy but the sentiment "shooting CEOs is good actually" is literally everywhere now, which is NEVER going to be something the right supports.

A highly upvoted comment on Ben Shapiro's video condemning the shooting was "if the left supports this call me a leftist then".

All we have to do to actually get people to hear us out is use the right language when they open the door, then fix the brainworms once they're actually listening to us. The biggest barrier is getting them to listen in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Gotta strike while the irons hot. People are temporarily amenable to radical action, so they will be more willing to listen to ideas they normally tune out

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is from 2022 though. NY Post was claiming he was posting anti-capitalist and Ted Kazinsky shit somewhere. I haven't seen it. His twitter stops 2022 and I suspect that's around when his relative got fucked by United. I suspect he becomes a theoryless anticapitalist or anarchist.

It should always be assumed that lone wolf assassins have some wild highly individualistic personal theories if any.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago

He reviewed Kaczynski’s book on Goodreads apparently

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Americans (and most people really) are gonna have incoherent politics without clear ideology.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

he was still retweeting up until June (i think NY post is just lying)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Bah I was confused by the pinned tweet. Yeah he's an Ivy League tech bro through and through.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

dead-dove-1 dead-dove-2 dead-dove-3 once again a shooter turns out to be a worm brained individualistic libertarian freak

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While tragic, him being a right winger doesn't un-shoot the ceo

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i mean, yeah, you can neuter anyone with balls

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That doesn't make any sense. The crux of right wing ideology is that profit is the highest virtue, and if someone can't afford the commodified necessities of life this results in, then they don't deserve to live. Why would they kill one of their heroes?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

he loves tech CEOs maybe it's just a turf thing.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

Its really easy to worship the boot when you're the one doing the stomping. Whole lot harder when you're under it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm no conspiracy theorist, and I don't have any other corroborating evidence, but his banner has an x-ray. I'm wondering if our guy got himself into serious medical debt with a denied claim, read the :deny-defend-depose: book and went from there?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is going to further entrench the, concerningly common, idea that the right wing is currently more anti-establishment than the left.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't think he's an ideologically committed right winger tho, he just has a confused ideology because he's the perfect target demographic for the algorithm to serve right wing shit to. His twitter feed is pretty much what I'd expect from an average techbro college student.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

he just has a confused ideology

There's is an entire ideology for techbros that exists as an outgrowth of Deluze/Guattari, Lyotard and Mark Fisher which often mixes with the Kazinsky/Linkola/Hardin set at the "green" edges. It's modern advocates are the Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land, and Hoppe. They literally name their magazines shit like Thermidor Magazine, their ideological views are based on similar history that Marxism is. In fact many of them have read Marx and agree with various observations historical, ideological, and sociological, but not the prescriptions.

It's not "confused", it simply has the following premises:

  1. History does not trend toward progress
  2. People are not are equal
  3. The over class (often based on some kind of "philosopher king" or "titan of industry" vague qualification, but at their most honest are often explicitly racist) deserve the "fire of Prometheus" (technology, capital, power) because only they can wield it responsibly.
  4. The under class do not deserve the "fire of Prometheus" because they cannot form a stable society (insert more racism/bullshit here)
  5. By accelerating the contradictions they see in society, they can force a cataclysm that consolidates and binds the underclass and reinvigorates the over class.

It's a messianic reskinning of capitalist boom and bust cycles. They aren't confused. They know what they're saying. They simply cannot close their eyes to the types of observations that they've heard from leftists that resonate with them, they simply decide on different causes and different rectifications.

You're not gonna fight this on "leftist" ground simply because some of them also hate healthcare. They'll agree with your arguments on healthcare and ignore you for the rest.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

God damn it. They're going to find a post about lobsters next and my boner is going to turn into an innie so fast.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's some posts about how he thinks Peterson is boring and deliberately convoluting.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

🙏 Small miracles 🙏

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

He did seem to drop off the radar, cut contact with friends and family for 6 months.

So while he probably does have incoherent and reactionary beliefs. Judging his motives from old posts may not accurate.

He could have turned into the correct kind of communist or gone fully fash or something way weirder in that time.

Wonder what his manifesto says.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

i think if it's trash we'll see it. if it's based we won't

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Ngl i don't really care lol he still did the damn thang

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is it even confirmed to be him tho

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The news said he had the fake ID on him that he used to check into the hostel

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I believe Eric Adams announced it in a press briefing about 30 mins ago

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They have to be lying, they had nothing for days

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

According to the police, the guy had an orgy of evidence on him. Ghost gun and silencer, anti-insurance manifesto, false ID matching what was used at the hostel.

If its not him, its one hell of a coincidence. Dude was doing so well and then he simply forgot to stay low an extra few days.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ngl I truly doubt he had that evidence on them. I think the cops had that evidence on them, picked up this guy and went “Wow look at all this evidence he happened to have on his person at a McDonald’s!”

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

You guys are so easy to fool. All the Adjuster had to do was find this schmuck who looked vaguely like him and dump all his evidence on him and then boom, the patsy gets picked up and the Adjuster gets off scot free! Hell, he probably called in the tip himself!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's already had his folk hero status revoked ban-hammer

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (27 children)

Hexbear is going to be really funny for the next couple of weeks as the inevitable struggle session is going to be lit.

It's so fucking funny that eveyrone on this site would essentially dog pile this dude's tweets if they were posted here without a source, and anyone defending them would be insta-banned for "defending fascism". Ironically instead of contending with the messiness of the world in terms of how to fix it, Hexbear will now contend with the messiness of the world in terms of it's vibes and aesthetics.

It also shows how many of y'all actually read theory. I didn't start reading his tweets until they were posted individually, and I was like "oh he's a Yarvin guy" immediately. It's super funny that this site is so concerned with sea-lioning literally falls for one of the biggest "we gotta kill em all because only we truly care" type sea-lioning arguments from the people on the right most deserving of a wedgie for rubbing their two brain cells together. (Yes there are people more pathetic than Ben Shapiro out there, at least Ben Shapiro secures the bag)

Y'all gonna become fascists simply by watching S. Craig Zahler movies. Such incredible and cowardly ideological weakness from those mostly concerned with aesthetic presentations of ideology and it makes them no better than libs.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago
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