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given that this war didn't start as an existential threat for ukraine in the slightest, it's very interesting how determined people are to make it one
pretty surreal to watch western media talk about how the west is helping Ukraine
That's the worst part of this, Ukraine and Russia could have come to terms at basically any point through this, but the West keeps stringing Ukraine along with promises of support/NATO membership.
But instead a few hundred thousand people are killed and maimed, cities are leveled, and the land is salted with uxo that will continue to kill and main for generations to come.
And if you ask your average Natoid they'll say it's worth it "to bleed Russia" because thats what they've been conditioned to say from birth. The West is really willing to fight to the last Ukrainian, just like they're willing to feed any of their past proxies into woodchippers.
It's all so fucking bleak, and NATO leaders seem fine with repeatedly provoking Russia and escalating the war. Not that it's anything new of course, the entire Cuban missile crisis is still framed as "those evil soviets wanted to base missiles right next to America to bypass warning systems, how dastardly! American missiles were already based in Turkey for the same reasons? Never heard of it!"
What's wild to me is that there hasn't been any significant resistance from within Ukraine to their own leadership sacrificing them all to Russia
CW: mention of torture, murder
From what I understand state repression has been very thorough for a long time. They shut down all opposition media, all opposition parties, and their internal police have been hunting dissidents to be tortured, imprisoned, or killed. Many, many people have fled the country. They've also presumably got all of NATO's intelligence goons helping them out to suppress dissent.
There has been a lot of dissent and resistance the whole time. There's been a great deal of refusal to to show up at draft offices, large bodies of troops have abandoned the front to the point where the army has been offering all kinds of perks to keep soldiers in place. idk the extent or if it's organized and whatever is happening is certainly being suppressed to keep it out of the media, but there is resistance. Ukraine isn't a monolith.
Just surprising that there hasn't been enough of an organized resistance to hear anything about it. There are millions of Ukrainians who have left the country and aren't being repressed by their government who could be speaking out or organizing in some way
I think something to consider here is anyone who fled to the West would live under the threat of being returned if they went against what their receiving country wants.
I think there were pushes to round up would-be conscripts and deport them back to Ukraine to ~~fight~~ die. I remember reading about it either being implemented or discussed a while back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis
NATOpedia says that ~3.7m conscription aged men are either dead, fled, or in hiding.
Several social media groups containing tens of thousands of members were created to alert men to the movements of mobilization officers so they could evade confrontation.
Yeah, looks like there is organized resistance. We're just not hearing about it much.
They really did mean "To the last Ukrainian".
What's so gut-wrenching about this whole situation is the extent to which liberals are just using the Ukrainians as a blunt instrument to kill Russians and make Putin lose.
Yeah. They raised up an entire generation of kids to believe Nazi shit and now they're firing them off like bullets in their new cold war.
Those poor kids
Hopefully most of them escaped over the past two years.
Only ones from rich families. Poor ones are still there, to be used as sacrificial lambs.
Same as it ever was
And here we go. Endgame is here. Mobilizing every single man didn't save Germany in 1945, and it won't save the fascists again today either.
When they lose this war or are forced to negotiate with Russia there's going to be a lot of pissed of neo-nazis with an axe to grind with the USA for fueling this losing meat grinder.
The betrayal narrative is already starting to take root in Ukraine.
When they lose this war ~~or~~ and are forced to negotiate with Russia
Hopefully the neo-nazis end up in the meat grinder
It's not going to help that they'll see the US as being more worried about Israel. It'll spur actual antisemitism.
Tbf, It's not like the Ukro-nazis are going to be entirely wrong about Israel getting priority over them, especially if they have access to some of the insane shit that American liberals have been saying for the last year and a half. As soon as the October Revolt happened in Gaza, Ukraine was tossed aside and left to bleed out.
Lmao at all the people telling us were just evil for not wanting children fed into a woodchipper to keep up Lockheed margins stock price.
Absolute demographic disaster 
It was even before the war and now it is Thirty-Years War-level.
Ukraine : Why a 15 year old is not a "child soldier"
-2025 Opinion piece
Destroying that country's future and killing hundreds of thousands of young people for the sake of a proxy war against Russia 
USA indeed is the child-killer and the great satan.
18 is so young. They haven't even lived. Literal teenagers. This is monstrous, I don't even have words. No amount of blood is enough for these people.
Damn, Ukrainians should vote
out if he does this...
Lol oh wait he cancelled elections
Time to empty out the grade schools, if the war isn't won then there's no need to keep educating them. 
we will fight putin to the very. last. ukrainian.
I think this is the fastest goof to Lathe moment I have experienced
I sure hope the proletariat will rise to make me pancakes soon
I really want some waffles
America: Ayy is it feminism when we make sure every last man is dead?
They'll just start conscripting women once every last man is dead.
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