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[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I don't see how Paul wins here at all. Either he beats up a 60 year old man or gets beat by a 60 year old man. There's no way to look good in this.

[–] [email protected] 146 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He won 40 mil and Mike won 20 mil.

It was dumb, we paid attention, Tyson cashed in. Nobody was hurt. They both won.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah, but I would have really appreciated it if Paul was hit KO. Would have made everything just a bit nicer.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, it would have.

I think if tyson won, they'd just get him to keep fighting weird fights.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

"fight this baboon"

"fight this kangaroo"

"fight this pack of hot dogs"

"fight for your right, to paaaaaaaaartayyyyy"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd definitely watch Tyson take on all 3 of the Beastie Boys. Especially if the Boys dressed up in their Sabotage costumes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would pay to see it, but I have a feeling one of them won't be much of a challenge.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Is this really how I find out one of them died?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

No, one of them went to live on a farm upstate

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Yes, same reason I would've liked GOT to have a proper final season. It's for the story telling.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Well I think it’s pretty fair to say a lot of people were tuning in to see him get his ass beat. He’s made a career out of being a piece of shit that people want to see get knocked out. So he wins by us all hating him because if we’re hating him we’re paying attention to him.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Nobody was hurt

I mean, they both also won just a little bit of CTE.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This wasn't the first boxing match for either of them; their brains are finely pureed already. As proof: they both agreed to this fight.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

60 mil between them, apparently.

Doesn't take brain damage for that to sound like a good deal.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Money doesn't make him any less a loser.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago

Hit the old man enough to win by decision but not actually hurt him. That's the only real winning path - and exactly what happened.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Meh it's the 60 year old man's decision to fight. Your argument is in the same vein as "you can't fight against a woman". If they want it, so be it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

That's not a fair comparison, age matters, most people don't get smarter or stronger when they grow old. More fair comparison would be "you can't fight against a child", some children are quite strong for their age, as Mike definitely is for his age, and some eager children would surely want to fight against a professional in his prime. But there's no point for said professional to fight them apart from a show match, and you don't destroy children or elders in a show match even of you can.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

If anyone actually watched the whole thing, Tyson came out hot and Paul had a moment of fear. Then old man got hit a few times and looked like he was about to wobble to the ground.

I thought it was gonna be fake and scripted. And most of it was. But, the actual fight? Mike came out hot and it was pretty clear Paul could have taken him out a number of times but didn’t. He didn’t want to hurt him.

Look, I don’t like Jake Paul or Mike Tyson. But, it was a media event. It wasn’t “rigged”

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

But, it was a media event. It wasn’t “rigged”

You could gamble on it, which means there was money to be made courting suckers.

I'm sure the lion's share of "rigged" proclamations were coming from folks who got baited into bad bets.

[–] bdonvr 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think Tyson had the power in his arms to do some damage but he just did not have the speed to get in at all after 2 rounds. And he'd leave himself open if he tried.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

After the 3rd he couldn't stance, he was flat on his feet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thanks for an actually smart summary. I only watched the first few rounds, then skipped to the end, but I have the same impression.

Paul was using his head, not wanting kill a 58 yrs old sport legend accidentally. Also, he stayed in distance, to avoid accidentally walking into a stronger punch from Tyson’s shorter arms. The match we have seen is the logical result of these factors, no scripting needed.

Paul and Tyson made 40 and 20 million from this, 120 million ppl watched live on Netflix, so now the phones will not stop ringing at Paul’s promotion agency to make fights like these happen in the future, as I bet a lot of boxers would love to make money like Tyson did.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the summary, I was wondering how it went down.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The same people who took this seriously are the same people who mock wrestling fans. And wrestling fans could see through this.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about Mexican wrestling fans? Since they are wearing masks it might be a bit harder for them to see through this.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

You buffoon. Those masks have X-ray. They saw better.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Wrestling fans know good kayfabe when they see it.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Fake News, you couldn’t watch the fight on Netflix it was stills between buffers.

But for real who expect an out of form 60yo to do anything but loose.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

Things do get looser as you get older

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The only way we watched is on my wife's Ipad and it was because we weren't watching live. We were about 10 minutes behind the live stream. I tried to join on my Google TV and Netflix would crash.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So… uh… what am I looking at here? What’s this pic supposed to show? I just see two guys in a boxing ring.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s clickbait. I bet the article has 5 screenshots of twitter comments, and paraphrases them in 10 paragraphs, while also sharing a lot irrelevant info and linking other articles abut the match.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

the rules of boxing:

who is Jake Paul?

who is Mike Tyson?

why is this fight relevant?

definition and etymology of the word 'faked'

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Unpopular opinion i guess but here we go. The event was scripted but not the fight. Mike's knee was hurt, he came into the fight bandaged and on some videos of him prefight you can see how slow and wobbly he is on his feet. He came in hot but after round two it seems like he hurt his knee. Round 3-8 Mike was basically standing his ground in peekaboo stance and had no real ability to enter the longer reach of Jake who didn't force an early decision and played it out respectfully while still having to be careful about Mike's hands. I personally enjoyed the event, we all have this question in some form at some point: "What if this old legend came back into the sport, would he/her be able to compete?". I didn't come to watch a carnage, i was curious, how far the legend could push himself at 58 and i got my answer, i was entertained.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Thanks for sharing. This gave me a new perspective on the match.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Excellent summary, but I think folks were sad because a bunch of us had tuned in hoping to see :

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Apparently the match was also delayed due to some medical issue Tyson had recently where he was seen coughing up blood during a plane flight.

And I've heard that his knee was in a brace pre-fight.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Everything about it was shit. Hopefully Netflix will never get a sporting event again. Biased opinions all the way through the fights. Commentators talking about the other fights while fights were happening. During Barrios vs Ramos WBC belt fight, they were talking about the upcoming fights. Their audio went to Holyfields earpiece, later on a mic went. Their servers crashed. Rosie Perez is not 'the first lady of boxing' What other commentary there was, was horseshit. Plugging all their shows by zooming in on their 'celebrity' crowd. I'm paying premium to watch the boxing. I don't give a fuck about Jamie Foxx and Cameron Diaz and their new shit film. Or the two Cobra Kai clowns. Every five minutes. The trailers for the shows just interrupted everything. I couldn't watch the best fight of the night live because their servers went down.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Netflix definitely will get more sporting events. Right now it's looking like they'll get NFL games

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Glad I didn't give Netflix any money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

When I heard it had Jake Paul I lost all interest in the fight

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't understand why people watch that douchebag

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I honestly didn't watch it, but if I did it would've been to see him get hurt

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course it was, Tyson isn't a Saiyan. He ain't getting stronger at 60.

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