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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I was 10 i was told to be home when the street lights came on. Otherwise my parents rarely knew where I was. Kids these days aren’t going to be able to function independently when they grow up if they can’t even take a walk on their own.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

* Safety Warning * - You just said "Kids these days." The next step down that slippery slope is "Get off my lawn!"

This has been a public service from the Internet Safety Association.

[–] [email protected] 231 points 3 days ago (19 children)

Dunno how I'd have gotten home from school or to soccer practice if I needed an adult, ffs I was staying alone overnight and cooking dinner for myself by 5th grade. How do you acquire independence and skills with someone hovering all the fucking time?

[–] [email protected] 169 points 3 days ago (2 children)

we have infantalized children all the way through high school. no more open campuses, nothing. we live in a world where an 18 year old high school senior has to ask to use the restroom during the day, but could go to her night job as a porn star.

the main issue is parents suing school districts over any little thing, requiring them now to lock everyone down or else

[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Nah the real issue is that people will cave in to those helicopter parents making everyone else deal with whatever insanity they force onto their children's

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 days ago

Fuck that county and DA. I hope she wins. Bullshit. My 15 year old is out right now with his friends. My kids walk to and from school. Double fuck the old cunt who called the cops to begin with.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Imagine getting jailed unless you ground your kids 24/7. Pretty sure that used to be a punishment for kids, not a requirement.

I know this is probably not possible if I still wish to use English online, but does anybody know how to filter out news specifically form America? It's becoming less and less relevant to my life as America is becoming more and more like Russia. It's like yea, I know, the people are literal fascists, any additional details are just depressing.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not saying this didn't happen, but I'm skeptical that it happened how it's being reported. It seems the only details are coming from the mother and her attorney, which is a red flag to me. It also sounds a lot like the self reported "discrimination" that some fundamentalist Christian influencer families have claimed, when they were indeed neglecting/abusing their children. In particular the Lott family (AmericanFamilyRoadTrip on socials) who live in a bus with their 8 children, don't get them medical attention unless forced, and recently got a "parents rights" attorney who sounded a lot like the attorney in this article.

I also find it odd that the sheriff of a town of less than 400 people would cause waves like this over an unfounded claim from a stranger. I'm curious to know what all this safety plan entails, because it could be a very reasonable plan and it's likely that DCFS just has to meet certain criteria before they can close the case.

Again, not saying it didn't happen, but the story seems like a good candidate for "missing reasons."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (6 children)

the story seems like a good candidate for “missing reasons.”

Which is interesting as it's coming from reason.com

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn, I used to walk home from the bus stop that was 1/2 mile away when I was in kindergarten. These people need to calm down.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Some of these same people will complain about how kids these days don't play outside.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

Reported to police for walking less than a mile into town on a road that was 25 - 35 mph speed limit...

[–] [email protected] 156 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"You're guilty of leaving your child alone, therefore we're taking you away from your child."

[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thats like the bank charging a fee for insufficent funds.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or schools expeling you for truancy...

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

“Your kid could have been traumatized walking home alone, now get the fuck on the ground while we arrest you in front of them and haul you off to prison while they’re left at home”

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That would be admitting this country ain't safe enough for a child. Doomer world

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Based on the safety plan including “installing a location tracking app on the child’s phone”, the kid has a phone and could easily call for help or be called if there was a concern.

Children used to ride bikes much farther then a mile without even a quarter in their pocket to pay for a phone call.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Never needed money when you could call collect and when prompted for a name you gave a speedy, "mom pick me up at the mall!!" And of course she'd decline the call.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I started walking to school when I was eight. My parents made sure I knew the way and that was that. And on our bikes we went wayyy farther than a mile unsupervised

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago

Do you visit them in jail?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

A lot of us walked/biked to our grade school as well. I can't remember which grade I started walking, but I was definitely doing it in 4. I'd wager even grade 3 but can't be 100% sure.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

More and more 70s-90s SNL skits are coming to life for real.

First one I remember was when the Gillette Track 2 twin-bladed razor came out. The ads showed an animation of how the first blade pulls the whisker out slightly, then the second blade cuts it off, allowing what's left to snap back below the skin for a super-close shave. SNL made a parody ad for a triple-bladed razor where the second blade pulls it out even more and the third one cuts it. The slogan was: "the new Track 3 - because you'll believe ANYTHING!" Within a year there were actual triple-bladed razors.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Now the 10 year old can do everything alone

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I want jail to not be the default setting in this country.

Maybe she's a shitty parent, but that's something that can be worked on. She can be taught. It's not like she's some kind of soulless paycopath going from house to house traumatizing all the kids. There is absolutely no need to lock his person up.

And now that she's locked up, the kid has no parent at all. Does anyone really think this is the best solution?

I wish my people weren't so fucking lazy. Do the work. Figure something else out. Find out how to address this individual's needs without just waving your hand and saying, put her in jail and move on.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Adam_Walsh

This is what started this panic. A TV movie dramatization from 1983. At this point current parents largely weren't born yet so they don't even know how it started, they've just been raised into believing this is normal. It's not normal.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It’s also because most suburbs don’t have sidewalks and cycle paths and often lack safe crossings. Residential roads are so wide that drivers speed all the time. So kids have to be chauffeured around. Since they can’t even walk or cycle to school or soccer practice safely. That’s how it became the norm for kids to never go out alone. And people wonder why kids stay indoors all the time and play videogames or doom scroll on social media.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the real origins come from "do you know where you're children are?" PSA campaign during the Atlanta Child Murders in the 70s. My parents said they remember the whole country started locking their doors and were crazy about keeping their kids inside.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 days ago

Lol. When I was 10 me and a friend would take a bus TO ANOTHER COUNTRY and hang out at the arena to wait for the teams so we could get our hockey cards autographed.

I still have that niklas lidstrom rookie card.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Americans have degenerated so fast.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (9 children)

We BEGAN our existence with slave holding white men who created documents to rule the country which stated "All men are created equally". Then went home, treated the women in their lives like shit for the next 142 years AT LEAST, while also owning slaves.

Today slavery is mostly abolished, and women have equal rights.

Believe it or not, this IS progress......really really slow progress.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 days ago (6 children)

All of Gen-X would like a word...

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Yeah like as if God forbids any kids run around without being continuously tracked by Life360.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

A few days later, DFCS presented Patterson with a "safety plan" for her to sign. It would require her to delegate a "safety person" to be a "knowing participant and guardian" and watch over the children whenever she leaves home. The plan would also require Patterson to download an app onto her son's phone allowing for his location to be monitored. (The day when it will be illegal not to track one's kids is rapidly approaching.)

Of course there's a grift train. I'd be very curious to know more about that company, its owners, and its financials.

Also tagging @[email protected] (can someone tell me how to do that right?). Seems like something that might interest you, re: our recent conversation.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago

Nothing says small government like the police demanding you install spy software on your kids phone.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

These are the same people who say the left raises kids to be too soft.

They're raising the most sheltered, fragile, children imaginable. The only thing they'll truly learn is to obey authority, because the only adversity they'll ever face is their parents' rod.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago

From a boring dystopia to a holy fuck that's scary dystopia.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What in the sweet ever loving fuck is this shit?

State mandated helicopter parenting?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago (4 children)

But I thought red states were bastions of freedom?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

What better way to oppress women than by making it illegal to not have your child with you.

Women better get ready to be accosted by police asking where their child is - and if you don't have one you'll be entered into the police lottery where everyone at the station gets a chance bestow a child upon you before you can leave.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This post and posts like this should be taken with a big grain of salt.

There's not enough information supplied.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There’s not enough information supplied.

Business Insider has a substantial paywall version. It's an essay from Brittany Patterson read to a Jane Ridley, verified by Business Insider.

It's much more detailed and less flowery than Reason.

Mother of 4

Soren (tween in question) is homeschooled

Had to take another 1/4 to the doctor

Soren could not be found so they left him, they have 16 acres, she assumed he was outside

She took 1/4 to the doctor

Soren got bored and went to talk to a friend's grandmother that worked at a gas station, she wasn't there, he went to the Dollar Store, police brought him home.

Was stopped by a concerned neighbor, he ignored her and kept walking. She called the cops.

Deputy hauled her off, booked her and locked her up under arrest on a charge of wreckless conduct. Out on bail.

wreckless conduct: Daring or bold, but also irresponsible Willfully disregarding rules, norms, or social conventions Showing a lack of concern for consequences or potential harm to others

The deputy said it wasn't safe because it was a dangerous road. She said all kinds of things could have happened, including being kidnapped.

30 MPH road

Maybe he was doing something he REALLY shouldn't have been doing.

Maybe they had it out for her for truancy vs homeschooling

Maybe she REALLY pissed in the deputy's Wheaties,

Maybe it's not the first time?

Smalltown shenanigans, police overreach, nanny state neighbors are friends with the cops.

Take your pick; it might make a nice bingo card.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago

When I was a kid I got kicked out of the house at 9am on the weekends with no cell phone; now walking less than a mile is grounds for parents to get arrested?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

This is reason.com, famously a libertarian propaganda mill. Safe to completely ignore.

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