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Hey remember when Bill Clinton used his position of power to coerce a woman into giving him a bj and everyone joked about it and also slut shamed her?
Sexism is a hell of a drug.
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Remember how his wife also slut shamed said woman, and people call her a Feminist Icon today? 
There's a rumor that she didn't talk to him for months after she learned of his behavior. And she she finally did call him it was to tell him to bomb Yugoslavia.
No need for rumor; Hillary confirmed it back in 1999.
Bombing Serbia was a family affair in the Clinton White House. Hillary Clinton revealed to an interviewer in the summer of 1999, “I urged him to bomb. You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of life?” A biography of Hillary Clinton, written by Gail Sheehy and published in late 1999, stated that Mrs. Clinton had refused to talk to the president for eight months after the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke. She resumed talking to her husband only when she phoned him and urged him in the strongest terms to begin bombing Serbia; the president began bombing within 24 hours.
Wasn't Serbia doing bad things, though? I'm not super educated on this part of history.
It was, Serbia was committing war crimes. You can probably guess how much NATO cared about the war crimes, and how much NATO was simply trying to position itself to expand its hegemony and use the issue as a wedge in the Balkans that would reinforce the smaller countries' need for itself.
Ah, makes sense.
It was a shitshow after the fall of Communism generally and the breakup of Yugoslavia specifically, but getting NATO involved was itself controversial.
Real "My dad works at Nintendo" energy, but I know some people that were in Washington at the time who said Hillary was throwing shit at Bill and the secret service had to intervene before he lost an eye or something.
Then there's the rumors she got absolutely piss drunk in 2016 after she lost and that's why she didn't make an appearance at her campaign HQ.
Remember how she also helped hush up other women Bill was sexually inappropriate with?
But yeah no liberal icon, her and Bill both
I remember that from when I was a kid. At the time i absorbed the brutal and sexist treatment of Ms. Lewinsky and didn't have enough context or maturity to understand what was happening. All I knew was all the adults were joking about her, talking about blowjobs, and that the president was on trial for a long time.
Much later I encountered some of Ms Lewinski's work and re-visited the events and realized how disgusting it all was. A young woman taken advantage of by her boss then exposed and shamed in front of the entire world as part of a callous political play by some of the most loathsome people on the planet. And it was largely treated as good fun and a problem for the president with little interest expressed in the treatment of the young Ms. Lewinsky.
the "memefication" of the whole thing makes me feel really gross. not seen it on here but I've been trying to call it out when I can because obviously it's just contributing toremoved culture. human trafficking andremoved are in the equation here. seeing men say free Diddy "ironically" is fucking sick. there's also an aspect where some people are acting like his greatest crime is having sex with men... grimly predictable stuff under patriarchy but still awful to have to see. seems like the kids are all over this shit too which is just sad.
puritanism is a load-bearing brainworm in the usa
I remember there being rumor that Trump had a piss fetish.
If that's true, that's probably one of the LEAST bad things about him. He can get peed on all day by consenting adult women for all I fucking care.
the original piss tape rumor was that he hired someone to piss on the bed that obama used at some hotel
it wasn't a weird sex thing, it was some kind of absolutely bizarre petty thing
it was also complete bullshit and proof that liberals are just as crazy as qanon people
the whole russia gate thing was
What always cracked me up about it was one of Trump's campaign people said something along the lines of "We're looking into it" like there was a possibility of a pee tape. Didn't just refute it and move on, but instead acted like it was possible Trump made said tape.
Really bizarre campaign considering what politicians usually do. Obama didn't acknowledge the birther stuff for years because it was absurd.
That's of course what people like about Trump. He's "an outsider" who does and says the most heinous shit and liberals get themselves worked up over it.
I'm trying to remember the lore on the "trump piss tape". I want to say one of the sketchy journos laundering Russiagate came up with it.
I remember it being a popular joke on the dirtbag left because of it's absurdity. Trump is hygeine conscious if not actually germaphobic and a deeply unimaginative person so the idea of him having a watersports fetish was clearly ridiculous. The contradiction, combined with an opportunity to skewer the most loathsome man on the planet, was used to mock both trump and the people who spread and believed the rumors.
God that was such a bizarre era.
The original story was that he had some prostitutes just piss on a bed that Obama had once slept in while he watched
if you lend any credibility to freud, then germophobia and fetishes involving bodily waste are not mutually exclusive in the least.
I do not lend any credibility with Freud and in fact have a public feud going on with the man that has not been diminished by his cowardly attempts to evade me through death.
They’ve also done a lot of conflating the entire thing to homosexuality or acting like bc he’s had sex with men that was a contributing or driving factor which is pretty gross. See a lot of people using “no diddy” in place of “no homo”
I thought the baby oil thing was to emphasize how it was just part of his standard proceedings to sex crime people (which, since it seems unclear by your post, he did actually do) in the same manner as a director having a couch in his office.
Yeah, from my memory of the indictment it felt like it was included to stress the organised and almost industrialised nature of the SA operation
Most of coworkers are young straight men and one thing I can tell you is that "no diddy" is the new "no homo"
The way people drop his name into stuff apropo of nothing is weird in of itself, but never thought much of the larger social implications other than I don't like it.
i used to work with a guy who would constantly reference r kelly peeing on people. the lasting lesson people learned from that incident is "r kelly like pee sex and that is funny cause its weird"
except the person he peed on was like a 14 year old? and he videotaped it? wild that the takeaway there wasn't "r kelly is aremoved" but i guess that's much less weird for a celeb to be aremoved than a golden shower enthusiast
Yeah pretty much classicremoved culture
No diddy