Funniest thing is that if that dude had just said, "Cuba," this would have been a non-issue. The joke structure would have been exactly the same, and it would have still been a dog whistle for racists, but Cuban Americans are largely anti-communist ex-pats. They probably wouldn't have been thrilled to hear Cuba described as garbage, but if they got angry, it probably would have blown over by saying, "the joke was a reference to what communism has done to cuba." Instead, he picked an island full of people that can easily move to the US mainland and vote. Absolutely spectacular.
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No it's not. This is bullshit. Nothing Trump does alienates his voters. GO VOTE. I have it on good authority that Trump could literally shoot someone in Times Square in broad daylight and somehow not lose a single vote for it and at this point I fucking believe it.
GO VOTE
The Trump Puerto Ricans agree with trash island comments . They just think it's the 'others' fault things are that way.
This may even get them TO vote since someone sees the 'problems' they live with. This is how EVERY group that votes Trump against their own interest feel. They 100% don't know they are included with the 'problem'
VOTE
Exactly. There's not a whole huge contingent of upset Puerto Rican living in Pennsyltucky that's not voting for Trump.
Those racist assholes are still laughing at the joke and voting in that battleground state.
Trump could literally shoot someone in Times Square in broad daylight and somehow not lose a single vote for it
One of the only true things Trump has ever said
Trump headlines are spreading like wildfire and we’ve learned nothing of 2016.
We've been (not so) micro dosing rage dopamine for too long.
People who are the butt of such jokes have an innate tendency to agree and pretend it’s not about them because they’re one of the good ones. It’s sad but that’s basically the same thing happening with the white people the Nazis deemed weren’t pure enough, or the whites the early US settlers used to hate on. In another time, JD Vance would have been too Irish to be Trumps VP. That’s what this whole ideology is based on, there’s no fixed in group, the out group target is always changing.
"I'm one of the good ones!"
People who are the butt of such jokes have an innate tendency to agree and pretend it’s not about them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews
A reason why some German Jews supported Hitler was that they thought that his anti-Semitism was only for "stirring up the masses".[1] Also, they adhered to a kind of respectability politics that led many non-Jews in the German Reich to congratulate the VnJ with the phrase, "If only all Jews were like you."[2]
I have a few lesbian coworkers who are absolutely rabid trumpers. It's just some of the craziest shit I've encountered in person.
How to get imagined social status:
- Look up to an authoritarian shitheel
- Imagine your love for them would be reciprocated in their love for you
- Act like "I'm one of the good ones" and oppress people who are like you but don't perfectly match up to the idealised figure of the authoritarian leader
Oppressing others is a win/win for people who enjoy pretending to important AND bullying others, and I can't see it ever completely going out of style.
I take it they're TERFs?
I don't know their views on that, it's never come up. I know they really hate black people, which is the primary impetus behind their support of trump. They like to use the word "native" to describe them, thinking they're oh-so-subtle and secret with that shit, similar to the "let's go brandon" vibe.
I never thought the leopards would eat my face, says person voting for leopards eating faces party.
It's even worse: it's "I never thought the leopards who said they would eat all faces and actually ate several on live TV would ever actually eat any faces," says person voting for leopards eating faces party because they promised to eat faces.
In response to questions on the comments, and whether Trump was planning to publicly denounce them, Trump campaign press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement, “Due to President Trump’s plans to cut taxes, end inflation, and stop the surge of illegal immigrants at the southern border, he has more support from the Hispanic American community than any Republican in recent history.”
News outlets need to stop giving non-responses space in their stories. The PR people don't answer questions because they can just say whatever pro-candidate message they want and the journalists will print it. Say they gave a response that didn't address the subject and move on, don't promote their alternate messaging.
I want media to say something like:
A spokesperson for the trump campaign, when asked, spoke on another issue. We're still receiving clarification at press time.
They'll sanewash but not bullshitwash.
imagine if this was the only reason he loses the election. that pr was the decider.
This would be incredible lol
That would be awesome. We should give them statehood in return.
Yeah, but then they'd have to start paying federal income taxes. That's a big part of why their statehood referendums are always so close, it's a legit pros and cons list.
Last time "yes" did win by just a few percentage points though.
Well, Kentucky takes all of our tax money including most republican states
So if I moved to Puerto Rico I wouldn't have to pay income tax?
Partially.
https://www.eisneramper.com/insights/tax/puerto-rico-tax-0321/
Short answer is no on income from Puerto Rican sources or capital gains, few others.
The citizens do seem to be split between the choices, and in the end it is and should be up to them. I find it not surprising that the biggest reason for opposition outside PR is because it would change the balance of senators. Which is rich, since Congress as a whole needs a revamp in representation count in the House anyway, but we've held to an outdated number because it's "hard" to change.
I read there's another possible option - go back under Spanish governance. I wonder how much support that even gets, or if Spain would even want it.
There is another option, it's independence. That third camp is not as popular but it's full of the most romantic of the boriquas
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Imagine being the most hated comic ever because you’re racist but also all the racists hate you.
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It would be a fitting bout of karma after he didn't give two shits about the response to Hurricane Maria.
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Someone should've reminded him Puerto Rico is an American territory, and its residents are full fledged American citizens. While the island itself gets no electoral college votes, any of its citizens living in one of the 50 states get the same rights and privileges as the rest of us.
Not a single Trump voter changed their minds. The Trump Puerto Ricans agree with this. They just think it's the 'others' fault.
This may even get them TO vote since someone sees the 'problems' they live with. This is how EVERY group that votes Trump against their own interest feel.
They 100% don't know they are included with the 'problem'
VOTE
A lot of someones did remind him of that after Hurricane Maria, when he loudly bragged about getting on the phone with "the president of Puerto Rico" and was subsequently reminded that that was him.
Honestly, that's probably 90% of the reason he even went to Puerto Rico (and threw paper towel rolls at them).
Not only do they get no electoral college votes, they don't get to vote for president at all, though they can vote in the primaries.
Right. Unless they've moved away from Puerto Rico and live somewhere in the mainland now, which is a whole shitload of them.
The mere concept of denying certain citizens a right to vote, or a reduced/amplified vote, based on their where they live is entirely anti-democratic.
It's amazing how much Americans have just accepted blindly as the pinnacle of freedom.
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Vance said that he had not heard the joke and that “maybe it’s a stupid racist joke” or “maybe it’s not”
Schrödinger's racism, apparently
Whatever the maga hive mind decides over the next couple days.
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Heh.
November 6th, 2024 c/nottheonion "Puerto Rico decides election, most polls say Trump's blatant racism was a final straw."
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What about watermelons, pullout game and rocks n paper? He really torched a couple groups.
And each one of them were present in that arena.
Do I think all the morons present finally understand what they are supporting? Nope. But in a tight race, you only need a couple here and there to win.
This gave them more than a couple.
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Let’s hope they alienated a lot of people who had planned to vote for him.
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