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Federal agents on Wednesday morning hauled more than 120 firearms, including "machine guns," out of the Ahwatukee Foothills home of a man suspected of shooting at a campaign office for the Democratic Party three times and posting bags of white powder labeled as poison near political signs.

Jeffrey Michael Kelly, 60, was arrested on Tuesday night near his Ahwatukee Foothills home by Tempe police who, according to court documents, used surveillance footage to find the suspect.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

"Weird. I guess it's both sides, then!"

-Our liberal media.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Phoenix attorney Paul Weich told The Republic he was running as a Democrat for state representative in Legislative District 12 in 2022 when he had a run-in with Kelly. Prompted by several hundred dollars' worth of his campaign signs going missing in June 2022, Weich hired an investigator who he said found surveillance video catching Kelly in the act.

Despite evidence pointing to Kelly as the perpetrator, Weich said law enforcement did not move to arrest him. Weich said that Phoenix police feared that approaching Kelly would pose a threat to their safety. A prosecutor out of the Phoenix City Attorney’s Office declined to pursue charges, Weich said.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago

Coward cops doing cowardly things.

Partisan prosecutors propping up their Republican buddies.

Justice for some in America, like usual.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If you are a cop afraid to confront a criminal, isn’t that what special units are for? Like wtf are we giving SWAT teams tanks for if they can’t deal with this?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 18 hours ago

If he was handicapped and homeless they would be neck checking this fucker. Probably ly a lie anyway...I bet they went, questioned him, had a big laugh, shook hands and called it a day. This is PHXPD

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They also could just arrest him when he left his house for beers or whatever. They dont have to no knock him like he's "sleeping while black" or anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

They'll always have excuses, it's how they justify bigger budgets and ridiculous departmental purchases.

"What if they have anti tank rockets?" "What if they're using suicide drones?" "What if they start taking shots at us with phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range?"

The spectre of the unstoppable criminal provides an extra profit stream for defense contractors on top of forever wars.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

So they can get new profile pictures for their social media accounts

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

proof that phoenix police are cowards.. they freakin admit it outright

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, they just agree with the shooter.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

How about both?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Despite evidence pointing to Kelly as the perpetrator, Weich said law enforcement did not move to arrest him. Weich said that Phoenix police feared that approaching Kelly would pose a threat to their safety.

That's literally their job. They aren't going to send regular officers to that shit. There are teams specifically trained for those situations. Whoever made that decision should be fired and blacklisted from ever working as an officer again. But we know nothing will happen about it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems like those cops went to the same school as the Uvalde piss babies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

They may have. Third party police training is common, and a few companies train large numbers of officers (to be mortally afraid of any unexpected loud sound).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

Did you notice the part where it was Dems being shot at? Could be a correlation between who the cops serve and protect and what side of the aisle they identify with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Limited property damage and a liberal...no resources for that around here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

This guy seems dangerous. We should probably just leave him alone.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Sorry, we can't keep you safe, we're too scared. Buy us another tank and some more military tactical gear so we can feel big and strong again.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I do wish they’d stop citing weapons caches when making arrests. Just as many shootings are done by people with access to a single firearm as are done by people with over a hundred weapons.

If there were crated assault rifles, that would be worth making a deal about… but people are allowed to collect weapons in the US, and that doesn’t suddenly change anything when a suspect is arrested.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago

It can sometimes speak to the suspect's state of mind. A large number of historical firearms neatly displayed in a secured room is different from 2 dozen loaded AR-15s strewn about in every room of the house "in case BLM comes knocking."

When you get to hundreds of guns it is quite often a situation of compulsive hoarding. Not necessarily criminal, but often careless (as leaving unsecured firearms around is careless), and indicative of mental health issues.

Neighbors describe this specimen as a "January-6-type-guy" and avoided him.

Speaking as someone with his own gun collection, weapon collecting will always be considered eccentric at best. You're going to have to live with that stigma.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

While I generally agree with the sentiment... The type of person to shoot up a political campaign office is a threat to their community and shouldn't have access to firearms.

What are the odds that he had "hundreds of firearms" properly secured? I highly doubt all of these weapons were properly secured with locks, in a safe, etc. and not at risk of an unauthorized individual gaining access to them easily.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It gets the views up. Same with 'including "machine guns"' even tho there is no real evidence of that, just:

A reporter overheard mention of handguns being found in a master bathroom safe and the words “machine gun” and "silencers.”

"overheard mention" Top notch journalism.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be fair, if the police aren't providing additional info directly yet, what other reporting do you expect?

Not that what the police say is necessarily the truth about a situation either, anything they claim should be taken with at least a pinch of salt nowadays if not a whole salt lick.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Something verifiable would be nice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for your data on the percentage of people who commit gun crimes based on number of guns owned?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The overwhelming majority of gun crimes are committed in relation to the drug trade, and otherwise ordinary crime. This isn't a demographic that's collecting guns; they're using what they have access to. Meanwhile, I know tons of people that have multiple AR-15s, all configured differently, for different purposes. One for a basic two gun competition, one for home defense, one for a night match (usually with a suppressor; they're great for minimizing smoke), and so on.

I'm personally likely in the top 1% or so of gun owners, because I have >10 firearms, plus a progressive reloading press. There are three that I use regularly, and some that I never use because they're antiques.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

My question is more on a per capita basis for those groups. Do people who own 1 or 2 guns commit crimes at a rate higher or lower than people who own 5+ guns?

Yes there are fewer people who own the 5+ guns, but is there a correlation between owning more firearms and committing crimes?