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capitalist coping "YES IF YOU ARE IN A CRITICAL INDUSTRY YOU HAVE LESS OF A RIGHT TO STRIKE"

Entire thread on r/news is just the same sentiment of libs worried about their treats while the rest of America is already stuck in poverty and the world suffers already from American economic dominance.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“Noooo you can’t go on strike if it might affect stonks-down and the flow of my treats made by exploited third world labor!”

Also notice that it’s not, critical workers are being underpaid and exploited to the point of striking, so let’s blame the owners for the impact to the economy.

That being said, I don’t like the framing of writers and actors being privileged. Those are unions where they have a very small handful of ultra-rich megastars, but the vast majority of them are struggling just to make a living off their craft.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I agree! They immediately think of actors, or directors, etc. Instead they fail to think of set designers, make-up artists, FX people, etc. There is something there to a liberal looking at the industry and seeing the richest as a general guide for how everyone else must be doing (maybe not as rich, etc)

On top of that, they also don't even question why bank managers, financial analysts and other useless fucking jobs make over 400k? But longshoremen wanting job security and pay increases are bad? Instead they mask it with "NOOOOO DON'T HINDER PROGRESS TO MAKE US ALL CONTRACTED WAGE-SERFS!!"

Absolutely garbage people in that thread.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I remember this LinkedIn post talking about the potential in automating C-suite functions and the comments were full of “ morshupls Ackshully there are very important intangibles that only a coked out MBA former frat boy can do that AI simply isn’t capable of morshupls

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Those same lanyard enjoyers were smugposting about how us meat computers would be replaced everywhere by treat printers and that we should celebrate being replaced, but were so narcissistic that they didn't notice how their own jobs were actually easier to replace than the rest at the moment their fellow lanyard enjoyers decided to fuck them over.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also notice that it’s not, critical workers are being underpaid and exploited to the point of striking, so let’s blame the owners for the impact to the economy.

Are you expecting liberals to follow a chain of cause and effect with multiple steps?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not unless it's how to vote.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They can't do that either. Ask a liberal who claims to be sympathetic to Palestinians and lives outside of a swing state why they're voting for Kamala. There's no chance they identify that providing affirmative support to a candidate who does not need it outside of swing states does nothing but give the candidate more room to ignore pressure from voters.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Oh no no, I didn't mean convincing people. I mean the steps for online registration in pain-staking detail while pasting that god-forbidden vote link. The one thing I've seen them organizing for is copy and pasting "Check your registration!" like they're doing a civic duty.

Honestly, I'm convinced for a good chunk of them it's just like a cultural thing. "The state says we vote at certain time of year and then go and cast vote for blue and red and that is our civic duty. Vote blue."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

There’s definitely an element of “If we don’t perform the voting ritual the democracy gods will be angered” going on.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"Imagine if healthcare workers go on strike!"

Yeah? We've been striking on and off for like the last 3 years here in the UK having not striked for literally decades beforehand. Treat the workers better and they won't strike?

Oh and the public support it so you're onto a losing argument there already.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

Damn commies wanting a decent wage

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I saw some randos online saying that if an industry is too important for a strike it should be nationalized, so that was heartening.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Biden's vanguard made from the Bidentariat of the longshoremen.

In all serious, yeah; some of them really are like "why are we against this". Libs that have a shred of class consciousness. Let's hope they grow.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thomas Frank is the goat in this. If there's any liberals you worry about them getting scratched, What's The Matter With Kansas or Listen Liberal are both borderline gateway theory.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

if an industry is too important for a strike it should be nationalized

Liberals have no earthly idea what nationalization means or entails. I suspect they'd be perfectly happy with a PG&E or Fannie Mae relationship, wherein the enterprise is ostensibly managed by the state but so heavily privatized as to just be a continuous stream of bailouts for private investors.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"but them going on strike will cause problems," well, looks like the company should give in quickly.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

If going on strike didn't cause problems it would just be taking unpaid leave

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Comparing dockworkers to doctors striking for 600k a year is so asinine.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In a matter of perspective, if the longshoremen strike and hospitals with the 600k a year doctors can't perform surgeries without supplies; why aren't the longshoremen getting a living wage and security guarantees?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mandatory public service should include every service industry job so these goobers stop talking like this and get some f****** perspective

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (4 children)

In my experience, selfish assholes who work service jobs just use it as an excuse to shit on service workers harder because, “I’ve worked this job and it’s not that hard”.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Or "Ya it was tough but I paid my dues and now I have a 'real' job." Which is also terrible.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The workers more than anybody should dictate what tech comes in. They have the bazinga filter these children on Reddit and the freaks in the board room are missing

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"STOP HINDERING PROGRESS" the Redditoid says as your familiar mechanical controls on your crane are replaced with a giant touchscreen and chatgpt input filter.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"STOP HINDERING PROGRESS" the Redditoid says as your familiar mechanical controls on your crane are replaced with a giant touchscreen and chatgpt input filter.

Um, sorry to say this, hate to break it to you, but to be brutally honest, you forgot to mention the A~I that will eventually make the crane operate itself and probably be more conscious and self-aware than you are, meat computer. Is that emotion I see? Perhaps fear? Siiiiigh. smuglord

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My kneejerk reaction to the "no automation" was negative, but after reading the actual explanation why, I totally agreed.

Automation is better in theory, but in typical capitalist fashion it's mostly done in a hamfisted way to push out labor and ends up costing more in the long run through high initial and long term costs.

In order for tech to work right in blue collar work, it really needs to be designed and implemented almost entirely by the workers themselves.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

It usually doesn't even 'push out' labor, it simply makes it have the appearance of being deskilled, so the worker has to learn to not only do the job they were doing before, but recognize when automation is fucking up and usually get paid less.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Surely, the porkies can’t pull off making the workers look like the bad guys for wanting more money in this economy

Reality:

what-the-hell

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

maybe-later-kiddo oh no, it will crash the global economy

smalls-unflinching it's called leverage, motherfucker. The ilwu shut down the west coast back around 9-11, life went on.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

Imagine if your doctors earning 300k a year decide to strike to demand 600k a year and people are dying left and right as a result

close, they only do that if healthcare is threatened to be socialized

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

One day, in the socialist future, students will be reading about this stuff completely confused

"Teacher, why would they keep piling on essential duties to so few people and treat them so badly? Why did other workers not sympathize and feel solidarity?"

And it's gonna be weird and hard to explain, it's just not how it worked in our time. No it doesn't make sense, it was a very different time

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Archive r/FluentInFinance and when they ask why just show it to them.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

porky-scared-flipped "Why is no one rallying around my inspirational message of 'you must work, regardless of conditions, so I can wipe my ass; until that glorious day when we can dispose of you utterly!'? It focus grouped really well in the boardroom..."

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

copium "Can convincingly demand when Cottonelle runs out at Walmart?"

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you don't want these things to happen just accede to their demands thonk

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Do not question the Bazinga.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Wow, I knew the crackers would hit this point because its their treats on the line; but I didn't think it'd happen that fast. It still took like three days for the lib recalcitrance to jump out when the rail workers did it; this feels like it was overnight.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think a lot of people don't get that a protest or strike is a demonstration of power in a negotiation. This is probably why liberals love the completely ineffectual go stand around in a park on a saturday afternoon permits in hand style of protest.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Imagine if your doctors earning 300k a year decide to strike to demand 600k a year and people are dying left and right as a result

Uh, yeah, that's basically what the people who get paid that much do. They say "I want more money", and then they get it because they are too important for employers to freeze out, or are valuable enough to get hired practically anywhere the second you let them go.

Turns out strikes are just that, but instead of one person, it's a bunch of people!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Wait, so you're telling me that when labor cooperates, they wield massively more power than if they act as an atomized individual?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I clicked on some of the main subreddits and the libs are insanely mad because "this might cause Kamala to lose the election". Of course, when people respond with "would you support this strike if it was happening after the election" and they libs still said no anyway lol.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Libs love nothing more than a chance to be strikebreakers

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Libs: supporting every strike except the current one, much like they oppose all wars except the current ones

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yes, if you are in a critical industry you have less of a right to strike.

don't care + our problem is now your problem + physical ratio on the picket line soviet-chad

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

realist rational logical pragmatic enlightened beings when the utilitarianism is 99% hitler vs 100% hitler maybe-later-kiddo

realist rational logical pragmatic enlightened beings when the utilitarianism is hundreds of workers vs one guy who doesn't want to pay them and maybe his buddies powercry-2

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Can’t wait for the most pro-labor administration to break this strike as well for the sake of the global economy

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, since they think that the more critical you are to human survival the less rights you have, it follows that if you are a farm labourer and thus absolutely necessary for human survival you should have no rights and be forced to work. In which case to I have a group of 19th century traitors that they'll love!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they’re that important, it seems like the bargaining period should be quick. If it gets bad enough, Big Brother will step in.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The end result of this line of reasoning would be that slavery is best for all critical industries, because they are so important, therefore the people doing the work should have as few human rights as possible in order to keep The Economy flowing. I wonder how long before libs become openly pro-slavery?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't ask them about prison labor in fighting wild fires. You will find out they already are very much pro slavery.

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