She joined pro-Palestinians just days after Oct. 7, posting a photo of herself holding a sign reading “Stand with Gaza” — alongside a toy octopus, which some read as an allusion to the Nazis’ antisemitic propaganda visualizing Judaism’s supposed network of control over the world.

Octopus is Khamas.

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[–] 77 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Zionists who conflate being against genocide as being against Jews really are telling on themselves aren't they

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago

    They have completely turned this phrase into meaningless drivel.

    This is annoying because it gives real antisemites free capability to say so much more than they ever could before.

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    See this is funny because the venn diagram for "hates Greta Thunberg" and "thinks that (((they)))))))))) are resonsible for everything" might as well be a circle where I'm from.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    she is becoming more based by the day

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Zionists and antisemites go in the barbara-pit together

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The octopus is so fucking dumb because the nazis and americans both depticted communists as octopus. It's a common propaganda motif

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    Good for her! I'm not holding my breath that she will suddenly embrace communism or anything, but it sure isn't everyone who ended up on the right side of this one from the beginning.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Famously hateful to people based on their inheritance Greta Thunberg who made a name for herself by blaming climate change on left handed people. The incurious, unthinking teenager who never once considered the opinions of scientists and historians, Greta Thunberg became at odds with the well-loved mainstream when she disagreed with their rhetoric that was responsive to the desires of their base.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    It's deeply fucked up how a bunch of apartheid enjoyers get to trick people into associating everything Jewish with apartheid enjoyment.

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    cringe you don't have to do that, just reject the dichotomy. Antisemitism is still a real thing it's not like anti-Italian bigotry or whatever, and we still have to be wary of letting antisemites use the left to carry their vile hatred, even when Palestinian genocide is such an enormous problem that it warps the importance of other problems.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I see it the same way as "terrorist." Terrorism is obviously not good, but when resistance is defined as terrorism, then anyone who resists imperialism is definitionally a terrorist.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Those might be comparable in the sense that if someone called me a terrorist, I'd sooner try to challenge the assumptions that led them to make the claim than the claim itself because I understand why they'd call me a terrorist (or an antisemite) but I believe those reasons are frivolous and easily dismissed. But I'd be much more careful trying to lean into being called an antisemite, when called a terrorist I might say "and I'd fly those planes into the towers again" but I would never say something similar when called an antisemite.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    they can say lots of things, reject framing and spit on fools

    (it's akin to agreeing to questions of "would you say n-word to save your family", there are no comic book villains around)

    P.S. What it does imply though, you can't take so and so is an anti-semite as being true judgement. Before corbyn, i would very unlikely to pursue the truth of somebody called that, and put them into the ignore box. Now that check of "anti-semitism" requires some verification (or more trustworthy than adl/government source)

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Hasn't Roger Waters been getting called an antisemite for ages for the same things as Corbyn?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Yes, but he did kinda weird thing at one concert which for me was enough to put him in a box of (heart in right place, but might be perceived antisemitic).

    But I think I looked into it during corbyn saga, because I try not to pay attention to what celebs think or do. Some of them might support my positions, some will not, what exactly does that bring me (unless it’s like laser focused on the fan of the group/person/team, who is simultaneously unaware of their positions), they are celebs, random people politics wise, famous for other talents

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This is only making feel weird about not caring about anti-semitism any more. They watered down the brand. When someone actually does some real antisemitism I will have to remind myself to get mad about it because the term is meaningless now.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    They’re still doing the octopus shit? Shame to hear the people on my block with it on their dash are all antisemitic

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    Man fuck off.

    The most Nazi name ever is fucking Leeland Stanford. All that eugenics shit started here in the good ol' US of A while the active military genocide of native people was STILL happening (and it never stopped). When you specify like this you make Nazism out to be a uniquely German thing when it really started in the US and transcends national and linguistic boundaries.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Also, and this should really go without saying, but Thunberg is a Swedish name. So I'd honestly say that not only is there this sort of "Spiderman point" effect you're describing, where different societies downplay or deny their own fascism or racism by pointing to others — but Anglo supremacy itself is still alive and well in Seppoland, and equating Swedish to German to Nazism is a part of this sentiment.

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